Killa City: 'Big V' Vincent Muzquiz charged in connection with Southwest Boulevard homicide
By Justin Kendall in Killa City
Mon., Apr. 27 2009 @ 1:46PM
Jackson County prosecutors charged Vincent R. Muzquiz with unlawful use of weapons (drive-by shootings) and armed criminal action today in connection with the death of Rebecca Amparan-Chacon.
Court records say 21-year-old Muzquiz, also known as "Big V," showed up at a tavern on Southwest Boulevard Friday around 11:25 p.m. A witness told police that Muzquiz was upset, wouldn't talk to him and then pulled out a gun and fired it at another customer who was standing outside the business. A woman tried to calm Muzquiz, but he shot her.
Court records say Muzquiz told detectives that he may have shot one woman but "he wasn't positive." He said he may have shot Chacon while running toward the back of the business and firing three more shots, but "he wasn't positive."
When police arrived at the scene of the shooting, the found a 45-year-old woman with a non-life threatening gunshot wound. They also found 27-year-old Chacon with a fatal gunshot wound to the head.
The Jackson County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Chacon's death a homicide.
| Vincent R. Muzquiz |
Court records say 21-year-old Muzquiz, also known as "Big V," showed up at a tavern on Southwest Boulevard Friday around 11:25 p.m. A witness told police that Muzquiz was upset, wouldn't talk to him and then pulled out a gun and fired it at another customer who was standing outside the business. A woman tried to calm Muzquiz, but he shot her.
Court records say Muzquiz told detectives that he may have shot one woman but "he wasn't positive." He said he may have shot Chacon while running toward the back of the business and firing three more shots, but "he wasn't positive."
When police arrived at the scene of the shooting, the found a 45-year-old woman with a non-life threatening gunshot wound. They also found 27-year-old Chacon with a fatal gunshot wound to the head.
The Jackson County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Chacon's death a homicide.














I think you all should get your information straight , the lady who got shot was an innocent by stander. Mr. Muzquiz was shot at first, then used self -defness in this case. He was stood up by people who were already in the bar armed and their are witness to prove that these "unknown" men were plotting to kill Mr. Muzquiz. So get your shit straight Justin Kendall. Then you would have a better job and not stuck writing for some Pitch paper that noone reads.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 4:29PMIt doesn't really matter who was shot at first you dumbass. A innocect person lost her life because people think they need to prove something by shooting. Now a great friend and mother is gone for no reason at all. It doesn't matter how shot first. All that matter is she lost her life for NO REASON!!!!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 4:38PMI don't really care who shot first. All I care about is that there are 3 babies with out a mom because you dumbass people don't care about no one but your self. I think he should of died not her. She was a great mom and friend. This guy was so worried about his life she lost her. So think about that. And now 3 babies have no mommy becasue you people are selfess. I hope he gets everthing coming to him. She lost her life for NO REASON AT ALL!!!! We miss you Rebecca:(
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 4:49PMI dont give a fuck who shot first it shouldnt have happened at all now a an innocent woman daughter great friend and beautiful mother of three babies lost her life for no damn reason at all i hope that fucker gets what is coming to him he deserves it cause she didnt do any thing wrong but try and leave RIP BEKKA we miss and love u girl!!!!!!!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 4:59PMi dont give a fuck who shot first due some stupid selfish bastard an innocent woman daughter great friend and beautiful mother of three babies lost her life for no damn reason at all.. I can care less what happens to him he deserves whatever he gets because she didnt deserve this and neither do her kids...!! RIP BEKKA we love and miss u girl...!!1
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 5:08PMShe was my cousin and she was just an innocent by stander and this idiot just shot and she got hit.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 6:34PMI understand that a beautiful woman lost her life. I also am very sadden that only one person has been charged. apparantly there were other shooters. They should ALL be brought to justice not just one. Im sadden that yet once again people are Hiding these other MEN. yes Im angry and mad that a Beautiful woman lost her life over this dispute..
But come on people.. it wasnt just one man. there are others who were involved. stop hiding them and stop blaming one person. They are all to blame for the loss of this beautiful human being!
Im tired of the West side covering up the ones who want to run and hide.. I grew up in the west side so I know what it is like.
but where is the honor in talking shit on one person when there are other Men out there HIDING .. COWARDS.. TURN THEM in stop letting these people win. This is why the West Side continues to get a bad rap and we continue to loose innocent family memebers!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 6:46PMFuck all you dumb ass motherfuckers! Where the fuck is the coward who is running???? Everyone is so quick to judge and run their fucking mouths before they know what really happened and where the fuck are the witnesses that saw the shit happen?? No one wants to come forward to tell the truth huh?! Yea an innocent person was killed but thats the chance you take when you go to the bars and everyone knows that! She should of been home taking care of her 3 babies, instead of being out in the fucking bars!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 6:52PMFirst, Vincent has not been charged with any murder. He was charged with armed criminal action because he obviously has a conscience. Now Vincent wasn't the only party with a gun! Where is Andy and David Mendoza the men that were in the JESSIE'S BAR with guns and why weren't they thrown off the premises? they were waving guns around in the bar and threatening people. Why? Why were they not thrown out? Come on people this article is in complete and bogus..its the PITCH. Read on..
KANSAS CITY, Mo. – A 21-year-old man from Gladstone, Mo., was charged Monday in connection with a weekend triple shooting.
Police charged Vincent Muzquiz with unlawful use of a weapon and armed criminal action.
Investigators say he shot a woman during a fight just before midnight Friday night at 2855 Southwest Blvd. The woman was expected to recover.
Rebecca Amparen-Chacon, 26, was also shot and died at the scene. No charges have been filed in her death. Divers searched a pond at Penn Valley Park for any evidence over the weekend.
According to police, it appears Muzquiz was involved in a disturbance with another unknown male which is what led to the shooting. Muzquiz was also shot, but is recovering.
Anyone with information is asked to call the TIPS Hotline at (816) 474-TIPS.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 6:53PMWHERE IS Where is Andy and David Mendoza the men that were in the JESSIE'S BAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THESE Men need to be FOUND !!! STOP HIDING THEM..
they are just as to BLAME !!! FIND THEM
WHY IS JESSIE's BAR even allowing these men in thier bar waving guns
and WHERE are all the people who were in the Bar. ..
BEKKA we love and miss you and ALL these men must be brought to Justice.
: STOP HIDING THESE MEN !!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 7:00PMI dont know why people read this paper, Justin Kendell never has all the facts of whatever story he writes, Yes I am sorry a innocent person did die from this but it was not intentionally I am sure of that, she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time!!!!. This stuff happens everywhere and its sad, but people get your facts straight before you all start running your mouth!! there are many families hurting at this time and rumors are not needed at this time! Big V keep your head up this stuff will get straighted out soon!! Just keep your faith in GOD!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 7:08PMwho ever put that she should have been home with her kids is full of shit because Becca could have been at the fucking store and this shit could have happen thats sad that no one can leave their house and have a good time with out being worried that they might not make it home that night. ALL should pay for what happen. Hopefully all that are involed dont have this happen to their kids because it the hardest thing in the world but god works in ways that we dont understand. Payback a bitch. For all this bullshit 3 kids dont have a mom. I dont have a sister and my parents have one less daugther. R.I.P Sister i love u and miss u very much I know u can hear me please let all come to justice.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 7:27PMHow do you get shot in the back, and not say it was self defense? Punk ass Mendoza(bitch ass ex-cop i might add)got his OLD ass whooped on, and came back 2 weeks later to shoot my dude...?? Death?? there aint no coming back from that shit man. Find this bitch ass dude Mendoza, and you will find the killer. And to you MR Pitch writer, get a life, get some pussy, and get your FACTS STRAIGHT! LIVE BY THE GUN, DIE BY THE GUN. I believe it is premeditated murder when you go somewhere strapped up & the minute you see the person you talked about killing, you start dumpin on him? 4 witnesses all said the same thing" Mendoza shot first" you can take that to the bank! Westside for life
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 7:33PMThis is Muzquiz little brother and I'm so sorry for the lost but my brother did not and i repeat did not shot becca. he was also shot how come they didn't put that in there
read t his
A witness told police that Muzquiz was upset, wouldn't talk to him and then pulled out a gun and fired it at another customer who was standing outside the business. A woman tried to calm Muzquiz, but he shot her.
muzquiz was not upset, he just got to the bar,and he was shot first people and its called self-defense. and that women is my cousin who would shoot their own family.
Andy and David Mendoza
these punk ass bitches shot my brother and from where i see it shot becca.
-Eddie muzquiz 4
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 7:48PMMessage to MR..Justin Kendall
if you want to be a real reporter and earn some real respect then go write a story on the Mendoza's the one threating to kill Muzquiz. the ones that shot him in the back.
If you find them I betcha you find the real Killer!!
Why is everyone allowing one man to take the blame for the men who sat @ Jessies bar talking shit. Where is Everyone that was at the bar.. you all need to come forward dont let these men scare you PLEASE.. ex cop.. needs to found and punished! if you dont step up. Then you are allowing them to continue the cycle.
Yes everyone needs to be punished but the Mendoza's need to be found they are the cause for alot of the drama..!
Hey if the Mendoza's arent guilty then why are they hiding??? hmmmm???
Im sorry that A womans life got lost over all of this. Bekka.. may you rest in Peace and May your family find peace some day. As a victom of family memeber who died in a homicide I pray for your family.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 8:34PMThis is another ridiculous case of irresponsible and amatuer journalism on the part of the pitch. I believe this will do nothing but hurt Vinces chance at a fair trial. Just get your facts straight. this is an unfair and unjust article. You should be ashamed of yourself. Painting a horrible picture to those reading this. Of Vince. A human being. Not some sort of monster. He comes from a Great upstanding family. And you have no right to slander him.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 8:46PMTo everyone saying I don't have my facts straight, I wrote straight from the probable cause statement. I never said he was charged with murder. I wrote that Vincent was charged with "unlawful use of weapons (drive-by shootings) and armed criminal action."
The probable cause statement says that a witness told police that he saw a woman attempt to calm down Vincent "when she was shot by 'Big V.'" The witness then identified Vincent R. Muzquiz as "Big V." Also, detectives who interviewed Muzquiz said that Muzquiz told them "that during the initial gunfire he may have shot [the woman], however he wasn't positive. Muzquiz said he ran toward the rear of the business and fired three more shots and he may have struck Chacon, however he wasn't positive."
If you have a different story, e-mail me -- justin.kendall@pitch.com -- and we'll talk.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:02PMHey I got TIP why dont you go after the real killas. Where is the story about them. You got Vincent Muzquiz painted as a killer.
What about the crime on him. He has 2 holes in his chest. Here I'll give you the real names of the other 2 oh yeah abd their address....
LOUIS ANDREW MENDOZA
and DAVID MENDOZA.
1223 W 40TH STREET
KANSAS CITY, MO 64111
Go on interview them and help KCPD in their investigation!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:22PMFirst, I will start off by saying that my heart goes out to ALL of the victims of this shooting, whether they have died or have been seriously wounded. It is sad to see innocent people affected by something they had absolutely nothing to do with. It is also sad to see how many people have something negative to say about all this and about Vince, yet do not have every single fact straight. My honest opinion is that the people who have the audacity to get on this message board and write negative things and point fingers ANONYMOUSLY are the real "dumb assess" in this situation. I hope that everyone who posts after me has researched this story and knows what is really going on in this situation before they have something worth saying. I also pray that the real story is revealed and those who should be indicted receive the most just punishment for wounds inflicted and a precious life taken.
To Bekka Chacon's family, friends, and three precious children: My heart goes out to you and your loved ones during this difficult time. It is hard to deal with something like this because she had absolutely nothing to do with this altercation. I pray that you all stay strong and find the strength in your hearts not to point fingers until the truth is revealed.
To Vincent Muzquiz's family and friends: My heart is with you all as well and I pray that justice is served to those who truly deserve it. Also, do not let the negativity get to you all! Those who are pointing fingers in this situation need to take a second look and make sure their hands are clean! Stay strong, keep praying, and ultimately the truth will set Vincent free.
To Vincent Muzquiz: Keep your head up and learn from this experience. You have too much talent to be involved with things like this, Your dreams are too damn big! Keep your faith and God WILL help you, He is on your side!
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:51PMI am sorry for the loss of Rabecca. Her family and friends are in my prayers. I didnt know her but i am sure she was a great person. May God watch over her 3 children. Knowing 3 inocent babies lost their mommy is devastating. I have 2 children of my own and the thought of me leaving this world and leaving my babies to face life alone is horrifying. My heart goes out to Beccas family. But Vincent is not a monster. He's not only my boyfriend but my bestfriend and the only father my babies have. Im so tired of people makin Vince look like a bad person. He is is a loving caring person who is loved and respected by many. Trust me i know. But why arent these other men mentioned? They are the ones you should write about. They are out running free while Vincent is being blamed for everything. One was an ex cop i believe. Put that in your fukin paper! Please bring these men to justice. Not only for the friends and family of Becca but to the friends and family of Vince. We are hurting too :.(
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:55PMFor those who dont Know what happened and all is by hear say Fuck you!!!quit bad mouthing Big V!!!and for those who dont care what the fuck happens to him ..We his family and friends dont give a fuck what you care abt.He is a Human being and he has family and friends that do care abt him....Rebecca was an innocent bystander and didnt deserve this not at all and a bullet doesnt have a name on it.and it can happen anywhere, wrong place at wrong time..It is sad that a beautiful woman, friend, sister,daughter, Mother of 3 children had to die for the irresponsible selfless acts of others, but what kind of human are you to wish more harm to destroy more families, there are many families hurting already, Big V was not the only person involved in this, so you want to blame someone blame them all and get your facts straight.Blames Jessie's they also know what the fuck happened they aint saying shit, they shld be charged to .My prayers go out to Rebekka's family and may God bless them and watch over them in their time of need but remember God loves everyone and Please watch over and bless Big V's family and friends also who are going thru hard times. Big V keep your head up and Faith in God. I will pray for all Families..I love you Vince..and Rosie hang in there, I amhere for you..
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:56PMI am sorry for the loss of Rabecca. Her family and friends are in my prayers. I didnt know her but i am sure she was a great person. May God watch over her 3 children. Knowing 3 inocent babies lost their mommy is devastating. I have 2 children of my own and the thought of me leaving this world and leaving my babies to face life alone is horrifying. My heart goes out to Beccas family. But Vincent is not a monster. He's not only my boyfriend but my bestfriend and the only father my babies have. Im so tired of people makin Vince look like a bad person. He is is a loving caring person who is loved and respected by many. Trust me i know. But why arent these other men mentioned? They are the ones you should write about. They are out running free while Vincent is being blamed for everything. One was an ex cop i believe. Put that in your fukin paper! Please bring these men to justice. Not only for the friends and family of Becca but to the friends and family of Vince. We are hurting too :.(
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 9:56PM
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 10:01PMPeople are repeating what they hear but are afraid to tell where you heard it from.
If it was you how sure would you be if you hurt someone, how many times has so many things been going on at one time you couldn't tell left from right or up from down. I understand the code just as much as the next person,but Vince is a man about what happend he owned up to the events even with not being sure it was even him so people need to stop pretending they don't know and stop pretending they seen everything spreading false rumors.
My cousin Vince is not a monster or a killer as this paper is trying to portray, It is so easy to pass judgement and blame someone who stood as a man and admitted to the role he played on Friday night,unlike the other people or person who are currently hiding.It's easy for people to leave remarks anonymous cursing and passing judgement on my cousin,it's easy for people to know what actually happend and not step forward to afraid to break the code of the streets.
It's easy for people to say alot of things,but if you really knew my cousin you'd know he has the biggest contagious smile and gives the best bear hugs when he greets you. You would know what ever role that he played that night my cousin stepped like a man and admitted to his part when he could have easily said nothing.
Judge yorself before you judge someone else ~you can't can you..
Cuz I love you,
Christina Muzquiz-Boyd (ws)
Last time I checked we have the right to go antwhere we want. No matter how many children you have, every parent deserves a break or simply, a night out. To post such a comment, and you know which one I'm referring to, is irresponsible and very inconsiderate considering the circumstances. As a family member of Vince I truly apologize for those comments even though they didnt come from our family. I know everyone is hurting, especially the family of Rebecca and her precious children who will never truly know there mother,but if you truly support Vince, lets focus our energy on the truth.If have any information please contact 474-tips or simply, like we're doing now,let it be known on this web site. Every bit helps!lets all remember no matter what your feelings are,one is innocent, until proven guilty.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 27 2009 @ 11:26PMTo those of you who are taking up for this monster, I will pray for you as well as him. I don't know why crazy people are allowed to have guns, but they are. All I know is that our family is hurting so badly from this tragedy. My sister, her mother, is hurting so badly and wondering what she could have done differently. I don't think it is our place to wonder that, it is the family of this monster, I do not even want to think of his name. This is the second time in our lives that we have suffered at the hands of the WEST SIDE. The first time was over 25 years ago, and none of us step foot near there because we know of the violence that has gone on there. Becca was just a little girl then, and probably did not realize the danger. This man was a crazy man with a gun that admitted to firing 3 shots without knowing if he hit someone, AND then he hid. COWARD!!!!!!!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:42AMpeople talking shit and trying to imagine what happen.i was suppose to be with nephew "BIG VEE" I PULL UP TO PICK HIM UP he was trying to call me but i did not hear so i left to get gas on my way back down to jesse's my phone rang and "VEE" told me
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:12AM"im shot go to truman " hoping he was joking. FROM OBSERVING MY NEPHEW WHO IS NOT A COWARD OR MONSTER. he's a gift from god just like all of us that he created eqaul, just as god forgive's us you should forgive other's i know it's hard to forgive. because we never forget we should thank god for one is being born as well one going to heaven talk to "VEE" yesterday, he's sad, and he told me that Becca is in his prayer's. He prayed to god to watch over her family. that night there was only so many of God's angle's around and i know one was with us. But Becca's Angle's lead her to God.R.I.P BECCA SEE YOU AT THE CROSS-ROAD
SO YOU WONT BE LONELY
First of all all of those who are totally blaming Vince need to get there facts straight. Lets place blame where blame is due, at Jesse's Bar, the bouncer and the bartender knew that these two men Andy and David Mendoza were armed that night there are several witnesses who state that Andy was bragging and showing off his weapon that he had in the back of pants, and was talking about getting revenge on Vince, why werent these men thrown out of the bar?? Are we now allowing armed people to be around innocent lives?? Why didnt the bouncer search anyone who came into the bar? Isnt that what he is there for?? If everyone wants justice then they need to find out where this EX-Cop is and turn him in, my cousin did not shoot himself he was in fact shot first and if he did fire back it was only in self-defense. So Mr. Kendall please get your facts straight about what really happened before you write fabricated stories about people, Vince never walked into anywhere upset and just started firing he is not that type of person, and if you want to write a story then write about how we need to get the two who are on the run and we need to smoke them out...
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:15AMWhy would such an establishment allow a BOUNCER to let something slide. Where is the bouncer and why would he allow these grown ass men to be there waiving there guns around. Im sorry but if you were the owners of an establishment i would be getting my whole entired staff downtown to KC police -- i think they all need to go on record and make a statement.
People we can not forget thru all of this that Bekka lost her life. and that children have lost thier mommy.
We can not allow one man as careless as his actions were ( I am not justifying them ) but he is not the only one to blame.
Lets get the facts straight here!
where is Andy and David Mendoza
where is the Owner of the Bar how come he hasnt made a statement?
Where is the Bouncer who ALLOWED the Mendoza's to carrie weapons into the establishment?
Who's protecting Who.. come on Jessies bar looks like your protecting the Mendoza's and this shady Bouncer!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:38AMIm becca sister i read all the comment and heard so many things. I do not judge any one and please any one if your heard different or no what they are saying about vincent is wrong call the tips hot line. Becasue I know that vincent family feels what we are feeling now. I dont hate u and I will not judge u. My sister was wrong place wrong time. Its just sad people have to carry guns every where we go. my poor sister did not deserve to die in this way. Please people we need to change our ways how we deal with things.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:26AMI agree that the bar "Jesse's" should be held accountable for allowing these men to enter their establishment with these weapons! Where was the bouncer? why didnt he check these men when entering the bar? Or is the bouncer a bad guy too? does he do drugs in the bathroom as well as the patrons who go to this bar? Im sure he does! Why havent the police arrested David and Andy Mendoza been picked up for shooting at Big V? he was shot? right? and no one was been arrested for that? All parties should own up to what happend and what they did. Those poor kids have to go on with out their mother..no one is going to take care of them the way she did...no one can take her place...never the place of a mother! and now she is gone, because men or boys cant control themselves..its a sad sad story for all....God bless everyone involved in the stiuation down to the parents of this young man who has just become a young man 21 years old!! to the girls family who was killed may she rest in peace and her kids always remember her....Life is unfair sometimes and we dont understand one day from the next, but if these men would put down the guns and fight with their fists like real men used to do...we wouldnt lose innocent people....
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:29AMAll of this started 2 weeks ago at the lava room. 23rd street boys beat shit out of Andrew for no reason at all and it wasn't one guy it was a bunch who did it. Andrew was always at the bars never starting any trouble until that day he got jumped by these punk ass 23rd street West-side losers who think they own a funking street. To name a few Chris Padilla, a guy name monster-Steve Luna, draws-Tinoco boy and many many more. These boys to name a few had no parent up bringing and if they did it was doing drugs and partying and ignoring their kids so they can get their party on so now wonder these kids are the way they are. Fight like men with your hands punk asses and fight one on one. Apparently you can't fight at all thats why you need guns soft hand bitches. I hope all of you get caught and go to jail you are a lot of the reason the west-side has a bad name.
Jesse's bar has some bad people who run that joint the asshole son Anthony thinks he's owns the bar the only reason he works there is cause he can't keep job he is the reason a lot of people don't even step foot into Jesse's anymore and his wife thinks she's a man thinking she can give hard looks and act bad cause she has a lot of family that will back her up.....Undercover need to go in there on weekends and just see how many drugs are in that place and people doing them in the bathroom and its all ignored by the people who work there hell the girl bartender Ginger does drugs to....Oh yeah and Jesse's don't even check for I.D.s so there are a lot of under aged kids that go there because they don't check.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:09AMMr. Reyes better get his bar in check and let these losers go before he loses his establishment he worked hard to have.
My prayers are with My Bestfriend, her son and the family and children of Rebecca!
Vincent is not a murdered or a monster. He shot back in self-defense. Why isn't anything being said about him being shot and who shot him?
Everyone needs to stop pointing fingers. If you weren't there and no nothing then please don't say nothing. If you were there and know the truth of what actually happened then please speak up and tell the truth. Not speakin up is only making you look like a COWARD as well! WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF???? If you are truly BIG V'S FRIENDS like you say you are then speak out,come forward and tell what you know.
Everyone has their own opinions and they are just OPINIONS.
I pray for those who know something but will not come foward, I pray for those who are hiding that God give you all the strength and courage to do what's right.
You are only hurting yourself!
The truth shall set you free!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:27AMVince was shot in his chest and the bullet missed his lungs by inches. The doctor said he was very lucky. Vince could've been dead right now. Then who the fuk would u blame for all this?
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:38AMFirst off, to the person who posted the crap above about her needing to stay at home with her kids...EVERY parent needs a break to go out and have some fun with their friends, it doesnt matter where she was at, she shouldn't have to worry about getting shot while trying to have a good time, this could have happened anywhere, so DONT say she should have been home with her kids where she belonged, its just stupid and you are making the assumption that she was not a good mother...which she WAS!!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:49AMSecondly, my heart goes out to Vincent's family, I don't know the "facts" but from what I am reading on here, it seems as if he was defending himself and if that was the case even IF his bullet was the one who hit Rebecca, the people who started the shooting should be charged with her murder. Until these other parties who have been said to be involved are picked up and questioned...please don't paint a portrait of this man as a monster, I'm not sayin that any of this is right by any means but please just try to look at it from both sides before you post negative comments about the victim or about someone who may or may not have been her killer. He has a family too, think about it if he was your brother, cousin, uncle and also think about Rebecca's family and how you would feel if you were her mother, sister, father or one of her children??? Come on people, have some respect and more respect for each other and for the human life and think about how many lives you could be ruining if you decided to pull out a gun in a public place and start shooting. If you have ANY information on other parties being involved in this, please call 474-TIPS...ALL who were involved should be brought to justice not just one man taking the fall for all this. RIP Rebecca and may your family and children find peace
To the idiot that posted she should have been at home with her kids, she has the right to be in any public place trying to have a good time and not have to think about something like this happening and clearly you are not a parent or you would understand that as a parent you need a break sometimes. All that matters is that 3 children are left without a mother and her family is devistated. Can you imagine as a parent getting that phone call? its horrifying. Their family is destroyed and now this other man's family is being destroyed over senseless violence. Do not get on here and post comments that are rude towards either family. If you weren't there you don't know what happened and if you were, have the courage to tell someone what happened so that the other people involved can be charged.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:14AMTo the other men who have been said to be involved, turn yourself in. You can't run and hide forever. Give these families some closure and man up to your mistakes.
The westside gets a bad rap because of the ignorant people that choose to live their lives careless. There are plenty of good, hard working people who live on the westside.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:20AMto whomever wrote this comment
GROW THE FUCK UP AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN TO JESSE'S NO MORE WHO CARES
All of this started 2 weeks ago at the lava room. 23rd street boys beat shit out of Andrew for no reason at all and it wasn't one guy it was a bunch who did it. Andrew was always at the bars never starting any trouble until that day he got jumped by these punk ass 23rd street West-side losers who think they own a funking street. To name a few Chris Padilla, a guy name monster-Steve Luna, draws-Tinoco boy and many many more. These boys to name a few had no parent up bringing and if they did it was doing drugs and partying and ignoring their kids so they can get their party on so now wonder these kids are the way they are. Fight like men with your hands punk asses and fight one on one. Apparently you can't fight at all thats why you need guns soft hand bitches. I hope all of you get caught and go to jail you are a lot of the reason the west-side has a bad name.
Jesse's bar has some bad people who run that joint the asshole son Anthony thinks he's owns the bar the only reason he works there is cause he can't keep job he is the reason a lot of people don't even step foot into Jesse's anymore and his wife thinks she's a man thinking she can give hard looks and act bad cause she has a lot of family that will back her up.....Undercover need to go in there on weekends and just see how many drugs are in that place and people doing them in the bathroom and its all ignored by the people who work there hell the girl bartender Ginger does drugs to....Oh yeah and Jesse's don't even check for I.D.s so there are a lot of under aged kids that go there because they don't check.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:45AMMr. Reyes better get his bar in check and let these losers go before he loses his establishment he worked hard to have.
OMG... THESE BLOGS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL !!!!
PEOPLE STOP...THIS IS JUST ALL UNNECESSARY. LETS FOCUS ON THE OTHER PERSON(S) INVOLVED, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS INCIDENT.
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:46AMAt the familys request Visitation and Funeral services will be held for Family members and very ClOSE friends only . The door will be monitored and you may be asked to leave . Out of respect for the family please abide by this request
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:59AMTo all that have commented on here that have firsthand knowledge of this case. And by that, I mean that you were at Jesse's Bar on 04-24-09. Come talk to me. No one is beating down my door to tell me what they observed. I am the case detective on Ms. Chacon's case. Feel free to come talk to me. This is an on-going investigation and it takes time to talk to everyone. It is even harder to get to the truth when people would rather talk anonymously on a forum than stepping up and doing the right thing for an innocent person who got caught in the middle of a senseless gunfight.
Det. Matt "Buck" Williams
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:41AM1125 Locust KCMO
(816) 234-5336
matthew.williams@kcpd.org
FACTS not hearsay. HEARSAY is nothing more than mere GOSSIP. If anyone has a personal issue with JESSIE'S BAR then be proactive nonviolently and BOYCOTT the place. By defamating the anyone for personal issues is uneeded and pointless. If there are flaws and left out evidence in this case trust the process of our judicial system.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:06PMFor anyone with TIPS-FACTS please call 816-234-5040 or 816-474-TIPS.
why dont all u haters shut the fuck up and let the girl rest in peace. let the cops do their job. your all just a bunch of losers with nothing better to do than run ur fuckin mouths. and whoever talked shit about my aunt ginger be a man u know where we hernandez live 27th & belleview bring ur ass punk bitch
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:14PMI bet whoever wrote what they did about jesse's is there every weekend kickin it. how would they know what goes on in there ...U MUST BE ONE OF THEM!!!!! Lol
OH and why don't you put your name instead of ANONYMOUS!?!?! AFRAID U'D GET UR ASS KICKED!?!?!?!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:28PMOk now you all have went to far, you leave my sister and her inlaws, my aunt out of it,none of us were even there!! Dumb azz!
Get a life, you all just want to keep stuff going.
Let the woman who died RIP, and the other recover in peace.
Vincent will be ok, if he didnt do anything God has is back, none of you so called friends of his do, steady talkin shit and trying to put others in!
Rosie I am praying everything works out for and your son, keep your head up! Dont listen to the Hype! I swear its people out here that just want to start more stuff, hasnt enough already happened!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:28PMI pray for the families who have been affected by this past weekends tragedies. No on wins in these situations all families will be affected. So lets just please STOP THE VIOLENCE. Believe me you don't want your families to go through what our family has gone through, What the Garcia's are going through and the innocent Victim Rebecca Chacon's family is going through. Alot of people are hurt and angry but think about it was it really worth it. Was whatever going on worth someone being killed, Someones Mother being distraught not knowing her son's future. The truth will come to light, GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!Please out of respect for the families let it go unless you have some real facts or evidence, and if you do you should be talking to the Police not The Pitch!! Any info please call 471-TIPS!!!!!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 12:44PMJUSTICE IS what is needed here. We have to come together and find the responsible people involved in the Killing of Rebecca. NOTHING ELSE!!! People get away with murder because people are scared to come forward. We need to come forward to put an end to the violence in our communities. Our children, sisters, brother, mothers and fathers are getting killed for no reason whatsoever. EVERYONE HAS A BIG MOUTH TO TALK CRAP IN THIS BLOG HAVE THE COURAGE TO COME FORWARD TO PUT AN END TO THIS AND RESOLVE THIS SENSELESS MURDER. Three children will be without a mother because of this senseless bull....NOW IS THE TIME TO COME FORWARD..IF YOU WALK THE WALK LETS SEE WHO CAN TALK THE TALK....Nothing is being resolved just talking now is the time to come together to find EVERYONE involved so the right person is penalized for murder. We can finish this right now if the people would only come forward and tell the TRUTH so this can finish, and JUSTICE be served for a senseless murder.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 1:36PMFor the idiots who own and work at Jessies.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 1:39PMJessie's and Oasis need to be closed down just as Barcelonas was closed down earlier this year. I'm sure they will be closed down because Kansas City is tired of all the violence that goes on at these places week after week. If Jessie's does stay open then "good luck with business" because you idiots don't know how to properly manage an establishment. I highly recommend that no one steps foot into jesssie’s again because who knows what can happen to you. I repeat “STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE”
to the Anonymous person telling everyone to stay away from jesse's there has never been any shooting down at jesse;s they do not compare to oasis or barcelona so yeah you stay away your probably the one bringing the trouble you fuckin idiot so why would you mess with someone's business. what happens outside of a bar is not responsible for people's actions so yeah you stay the fuck away Anonymous.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:10PMI pray for all you angry hateful people out there.
May the Lord help you find peace and love within your souls.
Father these people need you to come into their hearts. Please help them to be able to love, forgive and have faith in you. They are so angry and no not what they say.
In Jesus name, AMEN!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:37PMDear Lord Baby Jesus!
My goodness, you all need Jesus in your lives. Dont wish hateful things on others. Karma's a Mutha! Like others have said previously in the comments above keep to the facts and stop talking so much crap. Instead of "MI VIDA LOCA" every one should be saying VIVA LA RAZA! Damn! And everyone wonders why the hispanic heritage gets a bad name. Especially when knucklehad people of the same race bad mouth each other. Seriously PEOPLE focus on yourselves and hope that justice will prevail!
If anyone agrees can i get a AMEN! If not hey its cool too!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:46PMLet me start off by saying "NOT EVERYTHING YOU READ IS TRUE" ! I am truly sadden by the way the media and papers and everyones else is potraying Vincent. I have known vincent all my life he is taking full responcibility for his actions that night. Vincent isn't this monster that people are making him out to be. I bet everyone forgot how he did a fund raiser a couple of weeks ago at JESSES to raise money to do a concert with his friends for cinco de mayo ? Or i bet everyone forgot how he has a job at Sun Fresh, R how he has so much respect for everyone that he comes up to you all the time and says hi ? This is the Vincent that we all know. Hes not some kid that goes around starting trouble with everyone, everybody has gottin in a fight a time or two thats apart of life. When is the media going to come forward and tell everyone the name of the other 2 shooters? How is it that they are so quick to charge Vincent and think Justice has been served ? Is it because MR. MENDOZA is an EX COP? Why is Jesses Bar now trying to hide THE TRUTH ?
This goes to show everyone that they dont card, they most definitly dont check to see if you have guns on you. Outa respect for Rebbeca they shoulda closed down the bar the next day, They were open the next day as if nothing happend the night befor .
To those of you quick to post blogs with peoples names and talk about someones family is not right , how do you talk about something when you dont have the full story let alone the truth.
Vincent: We your friends are out here ready to defend all the negitive that people have to say about you, it doesnt matter what people gota say about you, you know the kinda person you are. keep your head up.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:50PMAMEN! AMEN! And AMEN! Well said who ever you are!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:51PMAMEN!!!
There is no reason to continue this nonsense of offending one another, those involved, nor the establishment it took place around. People make decisions every single day, hour, minute, second. No one knows what can happen and where it’s going to happen. Unfortunate things happen all around us. You can all stop this anger and hate NOW and let this take it’s own course. Everyone can learn from this, we do not need to add fuel to this already started fire! All we can do is pray for EVERYONE involved, whether it was a victim, shooter, employee, patron, family member, friend – everyone is battling something and they need to be left at peace in order to get through this. Don’t make it worse by bashing each other. That’s not going to help the situation.
Dear Lord Baby Jesus...help us all!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 2:51PMjesse's is where this tragic event happened...jesse's didnt pull triggers or carry the guns that killed this young lady...what bars do body searches?...does patron next door, does sparks, does la fonda...90% of the people talking crap on jesse's have been going to jesse's for years and now want to talk crap. i have no relation to any of the owners of jesse's but still think it's silly all the crap being talked. instead of pointing fingers at establishments how about the people pulling the triggers and carrying the guns you all claim you want the owners to search for? my heart is saddened for all the mothers in the situation...the young girls parents, vince's parents, grandparents, siblings, cousins, uncles, etc. they all lose. some more then others but they all lose. instead of being negative on both sides, just try being positive and hopefully learn that even though you may think your protecting yourself with that gun, are you willing to chance taking the life of someone else innocent.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:00PMIf you were there, don't be afraid to say sumthin, there are more things needing to be figured out, and all the people who know shit, who aint sayin shit, guess what, our good freind is havin to bite tha bullet, because u are scared to say sumthin, somebody on here said it perfect, speak up, the only person being blamed is V, and to the guy who said chris padilla was involved at tha lava room, I was there and didn't see him, so I'm fairly certain that means he wasn't there, I got no reason to hide any info, and if anyone knows me, they know I aint bout to let my dude just take one for tha "team" when in all actuality, the team is not playin fair, give this man a chance to get his shit straight, V keep ur head up my nigg, to tha fam of rebecca, I didn't know her but know how senseless violence has become a part of kc's families, I feel for tha fam, and my prayers are with everyone who, during that night had no clue or control of what happened, to the ones who knew who planned this shit, may ur sorry asses rott, and I don't care where u do, pussies need to keep in da dark, that's the only safe place for them, and to the now motherless kids, ur mom will be remembered, I'm sorry for tha circumstances... piggies stop reading this, and arrest the fucks who PLANNED DA SHIT!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:01PMSpread sum good karma in kc for once everybody, fuck!, in da end ask urself dis,.......
If I died right here, right now, will I die happy?, the honest answer for 90 percent of u fuckin dummies is gonna be "NO!".....
Words of wisdom, eat that...
lIKE i SAID...
I pray for all you angry hateful people out there.
May the Lord help you find peace and love within your souls.
Father these people need you to come into their hearts. Please help them to be able to love, forgive and have faith in you. They are so angry and no not what they say.
In Jesus name, AMEN!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:08PMNATALIE T for your information jesse's did close saturday nite out of the respect for rebecca we are not that cold hearted
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:26PMI am praying for all families involved in this terrible tragedy, for Rosie and her family because of the anguish they must be going through because someone else couldn't deal with their failure. For my friend Becca's family, there are no words to describe that pain, i just know that God will keep her in his grace and hold her family in his hands and comfort them through all this because justice will come weather on this level or in heaven.
Whoever is "Hiding" David and Andy may your heart be driven to go and turn them in, they must man up, Vince did.
We live in a society that is breeding ignorance, we must all empower ourselves by educating ourselves and learn from all these experiences that our neighborhood has suffered, and make the community stronger so that we don't have those individuals that like to protect the unworthy go unpunished. I believe that the Westside is still the best side, i love my neighborhood, and after all this is done, the neighborhood will still be there, but will you be the one to say something.... or are you gonna let it ride?
Strength comes from standing firm on the Lord's word, have faith that you are not alone during this time and that those responsible will be held accountable.
Vince keep your head up your family and TRUE friends know the REAL you and have your back through all this, and all those that have nothing but negativity and blame, i dont see you trying to change the way it is, but add to the problem.
Much love and respect!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:29PMFYI...Jesse's WAS closed the following night. The establishment should not be held accountable for the patrons they serve let alone be responsible for the actions that took place OUTSIDE The BAR. People need to realize that this situation could've happened anywhere & it was unfortunate that it did happen PERIOD!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:31PMI think its time to close the posts Pitch.
The sad thing is each time one of us gets on and complains we are creating hits on thier website. your giving the guy who wrote this article KUDOS even if your mad at how he wrote it.
he is sitting in his chair @ his desk thriving off of us all yelling and accusing each other.
Pitch you are selfish no good paper and um yea im adding a post because I heard of the madness going on your website. So Im to blame to adding to this nonsense. i admitt it. Never again will I buy or add a post to your paper.
Everyone stop!
Let Bekka's family be and pray for her family - what a beautiful loss to this world.
Let Vincents family be and pray that justice will come to be. to the parents of Vincent We are praying for you. Keep your head up Vincent!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:32PMLETS STOP SENDING THESE COMMENTS AND POINTING FINGERS LETS TAKE TIME OUT AND SAY A PRAYER FOR ROSIE GARCIA AND HER FAMILY AND FOR REBECCA AND HER FAMILY.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:38PMI agree, this blog is completely detrimental to the situation as well as the community. For those of you who claim to know what happened call the police, don't blog about it. This is 2009 people, in this day and age of dna and forensic evidence the truth should come out. And here's another idea, how about asking the woman who was shot that survived who shot her or what happened? Silly idea, I know, ask someone who was actually there, but lets give it a try. I'm sure the police already have. Lets let the police do their job and again, if you know what happened (and really know what happened) call the tips hotline. And before you do that, ask yourself how many versions of the story have you heard before you decided to stick with one and then call.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:46PMi apologize i was not aware that it shut down that night during the day it was opened . That is true trouble goes in any bar. Let this be a lessoned learned to all.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:53PMthank you to danny rentas for clearing that up about certain people that were there that night it puts a bad name on them and there not able to defend themselves when there not even aware of whats going on
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 3:56PMTo all that have commented on here that have firsthand knowledge of this case. And by that, I mean that you were at Jesse's Bar on 04-24-09. Come talk to me. No one is beating down my door to tell me what they observed. I am the case detective on Ms. Chacon's case. Feel free to come talk to me. This is an on-going investigation and it takes time to talk to everyone. It is even harder to get to the truth when people would rather talk anonymously on a forum than stepping up and doing the right thing for an innocent person who got caught in the middle of a senseless gunfight.
Det. Matt "Buck" Williams
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:07PMKCMO Police Department
Homicide Unit-1010 Squad
(816) 234-5336 (Desk)
matthew.williams@kcpd.org
PRAYERS FOR YOU ALL...WHY DOESN"T EVERYONE TAKE A MINUTE OR 2 and pray these prayers instead of pointing fingers and giving the pitch the satisfaction of everyone turning against each other.
Lord, i pray for all this hostility
Grant Us Your Salvation
Show us your mercy, O Lord;
And grant us your salvation.
Clothe your ministers with righteousness;
Let your people sing with joy.
Give peace, O Lord, in all the world;
For only in you can we live in safety.
Lord, keep this nation under your care;
And guide us in the way of justice and truth.
Let your way be known upon earth;
Your saving health among all nations.
Let not the needy, O Lord, be forgotten;
Nor the hope of the poor be taken away.
Create in us clean hearts, O God;
And sustain us by your Holy Spirit.
Grant Us Your Peace
O Lord, my God,
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:10PMgrant us your peace; already, indeed, you have made us rich in all things!
Give us that peace of being at rest,
that sabbath peace,
the peace which knows no end.
Make Me An Instrument of Your Peace
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:13PMWhere there is hatred, let me sow love,
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith,
Where there is despair, hope,
Where there is darkness, light,
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much
seek to be consoled as to console,
not so much to be understood as to understand,
not so much to be loved, as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
it is in dying that we awake to eternal life.
Make Me An Instrument of Your Peace
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:15PMWhere there is hatred, let me sow love,
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith,
Where there is despair, hope,
Where there is darkness, light,
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much
seek to be consoled as to console,
not so much to be understood as to understand,
not so much to be loved, as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
it is in dying that we awake to eternal life.
gangs and gang members are stupid pussies.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:16PMNat, no problem... I wouldn't dream of letting sumone who obviously has issues wit sumone just slander they're name because they feel they can, I'm not really defending anyone, just straightening out facts... I will stand up for what I've learned to be right... even if it means admitting to fault... wish more people would do the same, and to the detective, thank u, if I can I will get anybody who was there that I know, to talk to u about what they KNOW, not what's been hearsay... hopefully anyone wit real info has already put effort forth in trying to get this settled... my prayers are with the fams...
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:41PMi don't see how any of this has to do with the bar. it was the people with guns that are to blame or maybe their parents!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:46PMFirst I would like to take this time and send out our families most sincere condolences to Rebecca Amparan-Chacons family, no words can take the pain away, all we can give is our deepest sympathy and prayers.
We the Munoz Family are very saddened by the tragedy that took place at Jesse's. Our niece Teresa Santoyo was the second female victim and by the grace of god is recovering at the hospital. We just lost her mother, our sister Betty Baldasso a little over a month ago and our nephew Vincent Muzquiz grandson to our sister, Mary Grace Garcia also a victim in this terrible triangle of violence sits in jail with injuries also. All we can do as a family is remain close and strong, as a family should be.
We ask that anyone with information to please come forward and tell the KC MO Police Department what truly happened.
Teresa and Vincent we love you and are here for you alway's.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:59PM
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:01PMThis is the second killing!! U should have closed July of 2000, when MY DAD, Anthony Arellano Passed away and u motherfuckers had The NERVE to say YOUR Cameras werent workin..so no one was ever charged and another unsolved Murder of an innocent bystander..BULLSHIT come on.. This is the 3rd or 4th shooting thats happened here and on THE Westside..Now your acting Brand NEW!!Like your not from The westside had it been one of ur family members How would you react?? You guys are just thinking Money$$$ Do us all A favor and Save some innocent Lives and CLOSE that MOTHERFUCKER down for GOOD!
R.I.P Anthony Arellano and Rebecca Chacon
why are u blaming this on BIG V for it was not even his fualt dum shits get your facts strait mendoza is a bitch
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:11PMwhy are you guys blaming this on BIG V for hes the one that got shot and mendoza i am going to whip your ass punk ass bitch.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:16PMFuck all ya WESTSIDERS WE SHOULD OF EXTERMINATED YA BACK IN THE LATE 80`S & SHE WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO FUCK THAT BIG FATY UGLY MUTHERFUCKER AND HAVE 3 LIL FAT UGLY RUGRATS!!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:28PMThere was another gun in the bar that night. We all saw it...Keep your head up Vince. Youll be in my prayers homie...
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:33PMSome of you say Vince is an innocent person. Well, the only thing I can think of is that people thought the same thing about Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:39PMDear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:55PMI am a person on both sides of this incident.
I had the pleasure of meeting Bekka last year. We had became friends and had hung out a few times. I am sorry that her life was taken too early and that her 3 kids have to grow up without their mother. My condolences go out to her family, I have all of you in my prayers. She was an innocent person in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Bekka, you will be truly missed. I will always remember your smile and the fun times we had. Watch over your babies and let your soul live through them.
Vince is my little brother whom I love very much and that will never change. I know my brother is not a killer or a monster that everyone is making him out to be. Our family is hurting too. My brother was also shot but we are fortunate to still have him alive. The men that intended to kill him are running, they to need to be brought to justice.
Vince, I love you bro! I am always going to be by your side. Keep your head up, you are not alone. Leave it up to GOD. I have faith in him. I am praying for you.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 5:56PMAll of you guys can talk your shit about whatever the hell you all want. What about the other girl that got shot, dont anyone give a shit about her and what her family is going through. Yes Im sorry about the other girl that got shot and didnt live and BIG V we love you and are praying for you. Keep your head up!!!!!!!!!!!
As for everyone that is talking shit you all need to get your stories straight. How can people talk about something that went down when they werent even there. Thats how bullshit gets started.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:23PMWhat kind of "supposed humble ex-cop", comes down to this bar with a gun looking to shoot another man. If he really was a man of honor and respect he wouldn't be hiding because of his actions. You Mr. Mendoza are just as childish as the people who jumped you. Maybe that's the reason why the incident happened two weeks ago. When something like this happens, you should have went to the cops not try to set up a man to be shot. Someone find this man and bring him foward so Rebecca Chacons family can recieve justice.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:25PMI am an in-law to Becca thru one of the cousins. I was so sorry to hear about this. I am most sad for the babies! she had three beautiful children and my heart goes out to them. Please everyone take time to pray for this family. Pray that they keep the children together and that all those involved are caught...Yes, Becca was in the wrong place at the wrong time but she did not deserve this...I have 3 children and I go out and kick it when I can. So please do not go there!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:30PMCinco de Mayo is coming up....can we all just get along and celebrate in peace? Big V and his family should just show up on Jerry Springer so they can sort this out
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:35PMSome of you say Vince is an innocent person. Well, the only thing I can think of is that people thought the same thing about Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer.
do not compare apples to oranges...C'mon Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer??? Be serious? These are serial killers. Vincent Muzquiz is NOT in that category. What would you do if you had two guns pointed at you? Would you you be willing to die? The bouncer Mark and Jessie of Jessie's bar are just as guilty for not making Louis Andrew and David Mendoza vacate their establishment. Mark where are the weapons? Where did you put them? You hid the men in the bar, where are the guns? By their negligence, all of this could have been avoided YES the employees of Jessie's have fault in all of this. Why after these men were pulling up their shirts showing off their pistols would you not throw them out? There are to many of your customers who saw this. The truth will prevail and come to the light.
I agree let's cut out all the negativity and bad language the Pitch just wants the MEXICANOS to show their ignorance and we are falling right into the trap!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:37PMHere is one problem with the Westside: where are the parents when these killers are growing up? Do they not know how to raise their kids? Or do they just have them to get more food stamps and let them be raised on the streets?
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:48PMThey keep saying he was set up and that Jessies bar is to blame. who pulled the trigger? Not Jessie's bar. Vince did the shooting, he said so himself. so how can you blame the bar or Mendoza
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 6:51PMAnonymous says: when you see two men in your establishment flashing guns, the correct thing to do is kick them out. Yes, Patron and sparks don't search for weapons but they also aren't idiots. The truth will come out soon, and after it does you should pray that your business doesn't get shut down. Don't worry about me spending money their, becauase the last time I stepped foot in Jessies was when I was an underage kid looking to drink alcohol. I repeat "STAY AWAY FROM JESSIES" and we all know that wasn't the first murder that happened their let alone the first shooting.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:07PMThoughts and prayers to out to Rebecca's family.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:20PMBig V admitted he did the shooting; why drag innocent people into it?
Also, Big V is the kind of guy who goes around with 10 deep to jump one guy and this wasn't the first time. So who is the coward?
Big V blames everyone, the bar, the bouncer, two other guys, who really is to blame? Who shot the women? Isn't this what this is all about? A innocent person dying because Big V was upset?
Oh my god, you must be part of the mendoza family! Everyone is telling the story that they want to hear. Let's all shut up and wait for the truth to come out. If you were there or know where these other two men are turn them in. The cowards are the men hiding not the man locked up confessing his actions. If you have nothing to hide then why run.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:33PMI'm with anonymous, I would stay away from jessies.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:43PMSame here, go at your own risk or if you wanna get shot.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:49PMJesse's needs to be shut down..No If,ands, or Buts about it!! That place is a DEATH Trap and Baby Vince should not be the Topic it should be The MENDOZA Brothers..Them stupid bastards need to be caught and brought to justice..So Rebeccas Family can sleep tonight...
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 7:54PMVince is the topic stupid; read the headline.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:02PMWhat exactly did Mendoza do?
Did both parties have a gun??
Yes
Does a gun unfired hurt anyone?
No
Did both parties fire their guns?
Yes
Did someone get shot?
Yes 3 people Vince, Becca, and Teresa
Why am I wondering why everyone is in this gray area?
You do something wrong you pay for you consequences
Did anyone get hurt in this situation?
Yes mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, Aunts, Uncles, Grandfathers, Grandmother, cousins, children, friends, community, bar owners, bar tenders, security, bystanders, near by business owners, girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands, wife’s, people in the the list can go on..
Did anyone deserve to get hurt?
No but life isn’t fair and that’s what justice is for
Do I believe anything should be done?
Send both parties to jail for murder not just for Becca but for peace, for love, and for the hurt. I bet that will show other people that guns are not a joke.
Do I believe that they should be judged and called bad names?
No everyone make mistakes and should learn from them
Jessie’s bar do I think they did anything wrong:
Did they have gun?
No
Did they shoot?
No
Did they kill anyone?
No
Did they allow armed people in their establishment?
Yes
Do they allow underage drinkers into the bar?
Not since I have been going there
Do they have security?
Yes
Was it the best security?
No because he let people in with guns
Should he be charge with anything?
Well if it was in his job description to keep that out and he failed to do so then he should be fired just like anyone else that fails to do their job
Do they allow drug into there establishment?
I don’t know I don’t do that kind of thing but people that do tend to know where that stuff is...drugs are everywhere from schools to church yep…but what does that have to do with the situation at hand
Should they close?
Why they didn’t kill anyone they may have not followed the rules and like most establishments that don’t they get a fine and have a certain amount of time to fix it before another fine or termination.
Last would people even have said anything about Jessie’s bar if this altercation didn’t happen?
No because they didn’t before this and if they were really worried about change they would have done something about it along time ago
Is the media irresponsible?
Yes no matter if you read or see the stories on this situation you get a different story every time and if you’re dumb enough to believe it then there is a bigger problem at hand
Should a mother be allowed to go to a bar?
Wow I cant even believe someone brought this up
Yes hello you should be allowed to be anywhere that’s what we in America like to call freedom
This is my hood as well and I promote love harmony and justice so to everyone that categorizes the Westside as a bad place you’re just my motivation to continue to make it a better place for me and my future Westsiders.
Now like many won’t tell you this, this is just my opinion and everyone is in titled to theirs. Right or wrong remember human beans were lost and got there lives hurt so stop the bull shit and start loving you fellow man.
May God bless all your lives
If you can HELP:
Det. Matt "Buck" Williams
KCMO Police Department
Homicide Unit-1010 Squad
(816) 234-5336 (Desk)
matthew.williams@kcpd.org
Or
816-234-5040
Or
816-474-TIPS
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:02PMSome one should put up photos of these MENDOZA brothers, so people can identify them much easier. Does anyone have photos????
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:03PMPost script - Vince was in the hospital singing like a canary. And the two dudes mentioned above are the two dudes he was with that night; not Mendoza, get is right.
Hospital Staff
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:03PMIT SEEMS TO ME IF HE WENT THERE WITH A GUN HE WASNT LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME , DID HE HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN ? PROBABLY NOT.IF HE PULLED IT AND SHOT NOT ONE BUT TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD KNOW. IF HE DOSENT THEN HE WASNT PRACTICING PROPER GUN CONTROL TO BEGIN WITH. HE COMITTED A DEADLY CRIME AND IS WHERE HE BELONGS . I,VE READ ALL THE COMMENTS AND AS TO BE EXPECTED IT LOOKS LIKE HIS FRIENDS ARE PIONTING FINGERS EVERYWHERE BUT TO THE ONE THAT DID THE KILLING AND HARM . I UNDERSTAND TRYING TO MAKE HIM OUT AS INNOCENT LOOKING AS POSSIBLE BUT FACTS ARE FACTS IF THE BULLETS MATCH HIS GUN ...CASE CLOSED LOCK HIM UP AND BE DONE WITH ALL OF IT .IF HE HADNT HAD THE GUN ON HIM GOING TO A BAR TWO PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE . GAME OVER YOU LOSE .
QUESTION ? :
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:11PMWAS IT WORTH IT ?????????
You're probably one of those dumb ass ladies who spends every weekend at jesses and don't lie about your drug use, let's be honest. Yes it is illegal to carry a firearm into a public establishment. If you let men in your establishment carry around a loaded weapon with your consent and then someone gets shot and murdered. They knew what was going to happen. I think that can be considered aiding and abetting! Your days of having fun at jesses are over lady. They are responsible for what happened on their property. If it does stay open, who will go? Jackson county will be keeping a close watch on this place. There will be no more drugs in their to attract people and no more underage business to support the place. This sucks for jesses....
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 8:25PM..................
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:12PMI am so sorry and saddened to hear of another tragedy, especially in our Mexican community. To the family of Rebecca, I pray that God gives you the strength to deal with this horrible time in your lives. I pray that God watches over those babies and that their mommy's memories are kept alive. I have 3 children and could not imagine them and my husband having to go on without me.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:15PMI try to learn from others' mistakes, so I don't have to make them. It is sad to say that this tragedy is just another reminder of where NOT to go. I enjoy going out, but I hardly ever go on the blvd. I realize that no one or no place is immune to this, but I know where my chances increase; sadly, it's in my own community. You are right, there are honest and hard working people on the Westside; my family is from there. Unfortunately, there are far too many of our people, especially the younger generation, which give our community a bad rap. I am ashamed of these blogs that are being posted. We'd have so much power if we'd unite and do positive for our community. Instead, we are using that energy to kill each other and tear each other down. For what? When will it stop? You're correct; those posting those silly blogs are just making our people look bad. "They" are laughing at us! We are being made to look like a bunch of dumb ass, ignorant Mexicans! You are just reassuring "them" that they are doing the right thing by keeping as many Mexicans as they can on the other side of the border.
Do I now have to worry about taking my kids out for Cinco de Mayo because our community is at odds with each other? We can't get together and celebrate our culture without being paranoid?
EVERYONE involved in this case must be brought to justice. Vincent may be a good person, as many of you have blogged. I am sure he was. You obviously have reason to say that. I am sure he did not mean to hurt an innocent person, but God has given us the powerful tool of CHOICE. He CHOSE to carry a gun and he CHOSE to use it in a public setting. You may say, "what was he supposed to do?" ALL our choices produce consequences and regardless of his circumstances, he made his choice. I am sure he is very sorry, but his CHOICE has been made. Unfortunately for him and especially for Rebecca, his gun may have been the one that shot that fatal bullet. At least he is not totally denying any involvment. I know he is from a good family and it is sad that another one of our youths has fallen to the statistics. I hope that all others involved are found.
To those that know what happened, what if Rebecca was your mother, sister, aunt, daughter, niece, wife, mother of your children, or best friend? Internalize that, seriously! Take a moment to really think about that. Close your eyes and put yourself in the family's shoes. Wouldn't you want the culprits caught? I too know the code of the street, but do the right thing....someone's life has been taken. THREE children are left without a mother. It COULD HAVE been someone very dear to YOU. It just happened to be someone else. LISTEN TO YOUR CONSCIENCE. No one has to know you made the call.
Let's leave words of encouragement for all those involved. If you have tips, talk to the right people, not here. Leave the ignorant trash talk in the gutter, where it belongs. I hope my voice has been heard.
I am so sorry and saddened to hear of another tragedy, especially in our Mexican community. To the family of Rebecca, I pray that God gives you the strength to deal with this horrible time in your lives. I pray that God watches over those babies and that their mommy's memories are kept alive. I have 3 children and could not imagine them and my husband having to go on without me.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:25PMI try to learn from others' mistakes, so I don't have to make them. It is sad to say that this tragedy is just another reminder of where NOT to go. I enjoy going out, but I hardly ever go on the blvd. I realize that no one or no place is immune to this, but I know where my chances increase; sadly, it's in my own community. You are right, there are honest and hard working people on the Westside; my family is from there. Unfortunately, there are far too many of our people, especially the younger generation, which give our community a bad rap. I am ashamed of these blogs that are being posted. We'd have so much power if we'd unite and do positive for our community. Instead, we are using that energy to kill each other and tear each other down. For what? When will it stop? You're correct; those posting those silly blogs are just making our people look bad. "They" are laughing at us! We are being made to look like a bunch of dumb ass, ignorant Mexicans! You are just reassuring "them" that they are doing the right thing by keeping as many Mexicans as they can on the other side of the border.
Do I now have to worry about taking my kids out for Cinco de Mayo because our community is at odds with each other? We can't get together and celebrate our culture without being paranoid?
EVERYONE involved in this case must be brought to justice. Vincent may be a good person, as many of you have blogged. I am sure he was. You obviously have reason to say that. I am sure he did not mean to hurt an innocent person, but God has given us the powerful tool of CHOICE. He CHOSE to carry a gun and he CHOSE to use it in a public setting. You may say, "what was he supposed to do?" ALL our choices produce consequences and regardless of his circumstances, he made his choice. I am sure he is very sorry, but his CHOICE has been made. Unfortunately for him and especially for Rebecca, his gun may have been the one that shot that fatal bullet. At least he is not totally denying any involvment. I know he is from a good family and it is sad that another one of our youths has fallen to the statistics. I hope that all others involved are found.
To those that know what happened, what if Rebecca was your mother, sister, aunt, daughter, niece, wife, mother of your children, or best friend? Internalize that, seriously! Take a moment to really think about that. Close your eyes and put yourself in the family's shoes. Wouldn't you want the culprits caught? I too know the code of the street, but do the right thing....someone's life has been taken. THREE children are left without a mother. It COULD HAVE been someone very dear to YOU. It just happened to be someone else. LISTEN TO YOUR CONSCIENCE. No one has to know you made the call.
Let's leave words of encouragement for all those involved. If you have tips, talk to the right people, not here. Leave the ignorant trash talk in the gutter, where it belongs. I hope my voice has been heard.
IT SEEMS TO ME IF HE WENT THERE WITH A GUN HE WASNT LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME , DID HE HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN ? PROBABLY NOT.IF HE PULLED IT AND SHOT NOT ONE BUT TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD KNOW. IF HE DOSENT THEN HE WASNT PRACTICING PROPER GUN CONTROL TO BEGIN WITH. HE COMITTED A DEADLY CRIME AND IS WHERE HE BELONGS . I,VE READ ALL THE COMMENTS AND AS TO BE EXPECTED IT LOOKS LIKE HIS FRIENDS ARE PIONTING FINGERS EVERYWHERE BUT TO THE ONE THAT DID THE KILLING AND HARM . I UNDERSTAND TRYING TO MAKE HIM OUT AS INNOCENT LOOKING AS POSSIBLE BUT FACTS ARE FACTS IF THE BULLETS MATCH HIS GUN ...CASE CLOSED LOCK HIM UP AND BE DONE WITH ALL OF IT .IF HE HADNT HAD THE GUN ON HIM GOING TO A BAR TWO PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE . GAME OVER YOU LOSE .
QUESTION ? :
WAS IT WORTH IT ?????????
Was it worth your time writing this because you obviously do not know what the facts are you weren't there you do not know...Quit covering up for the MENDOZA'S. Those funny looking brothers better hide...
Bad boys bad boys what ya gonna do? what ya gonna do when they come for you? What ya gonna do when they come for you?
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 9:55PMThe Detective just needs to get every person that was involved Obviously "V" was not fighting himself, where are the others that were involved beside V, Becca, and Baldasso. No I dont think its the bars fault,it happens everywhere and its sad that it does. And whoever said that Becca should been home with her kids, really get a life, just cuz you have kids does not mean you have to be home! what a dumbass, you probably had voted for mccain!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:46PMAnd No my parents didnt raise us and had kids to get foodstamps, Really dumbass, all your comments show how smart you really are!!! Peoples stupidity is Harmfull! Just please whoever was there just talk tell what really happen. I was not there but if I was I would tell the truth! And whoever was with "V" that night if you are a TRUE HOMIE you will talk too! Help your boy out, dont let him take all the blame!
The Detective just needs to get every person that was involved Obviously "V" was not fighting himself, where are the others that were involved beside V, Becca, and Baldasso. No I dont think its the bars fault,it happens everywhere and its sad that it does. And whoever said that Becca should been home with her kids, really get a life, just cuz you have kids does not mean you have to be home! what a dumbass, you probably had voted for mccain!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:47PMAnd No my parents didnt raise us and had kids to get foodstamps, Really dumbass, all your comments show how smart you really are!!! Peoples stupidity is Harmfull! Just please whoever was there just talk tell what really happen. I was not there but if I was I would tell the truth! And whoever was with "V" that night if you are a TRUE HOMIE you will talk too! Help your boy out, dont let him take all the blame!
How can you spot someone with a low IQ? Easy. They use the "F" word. Can't you learn any new words? Please educate yourselves.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:48PMFIRST OFF, I GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF REBECCA. SECOND OFF, EVERY MUTHA FUCKA ON HERE TALKIN SHIT OR MAKIN ACCUSATIONS AND THINK THEY KNOW WUT REALLY HAPPENED, NEED 2 SHUT THE FUCK UP. YA'LL WEREN'T EVEN THERE. I WAS THERE WHEN IT WENT DOWN, AND THE STORIES IM HEARING IS UNBELIEVABLE. GET THE FACTS RIGHT BEFORE U GUYS START RIGHTING BULLSHIT. MY COUSIN BIG V AINT THE ONLY ONE 2 BLAME. SO FUCK ALL OF U TRYING 2 PORTRAY MY CUZZIN AS A MONSTER OR A VIOLENT PERSON. THERE ARE OTHERS INVOLVED AND U KNOW WHO U ARE. PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE 2, GO MAKE UR STATEMENT BECUZ I DID. IM NOT LETTIN MY CUZZIN GO DOWN 4 THE WHOLE INCIDENT.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:53PMAND EVERYONE SHOWIN SYMPATHY FOR THE CHACON FAMILY AND THATS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT WHAT ABOUT MY MOTHER, THE OTHER VICTIM THAT GOT SHOT 2... YEA, SHE DIDNT DIE, BUT SHE IS SUFFERING REALLY BAD. WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR HER?....
SO EVERYONE TALKIN SHIT AND WASNT EVEN THERE, STOP SPREADIN RUMORS AND STARTING SHIT. KEEP UR MOUTH SHIT.
KEEP UR HEAD UP CUZZ AND MAY GOD BLESS U. CUZZIN ROSIE, ALL WILL PASS, JUST KEEP POSITIVE, FAMILY IS HERE. LOVE U
Candace says:
This is the second killing!! U should have closed July of 2000, when MY DAD, Anthony Arellano Passed away and u motherfuckers had The NERVE to say YOUR Cameras werent workin..so no one was ever charged and another unsolved Murder of an innocent bystander..BULLSHIT come on.. This is the 3rd or 4th shooting thats happened here and on THE Westside..Now your acting Brand NEW!!Like your not from The westside had it been one of ur family members How would you react?? You guys are just thinking Money$$$ Do us all A favor and Save some innocent Lives and CLOSE that MOTHERFUCKER down for GOOD!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 10:56PMR.I.P Anthony Arellano and Rebecca Chacon
Only idiots play with guns.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:07PM23ST, 27ST , 29ST, WE A TEAM DOG...
YOU THOUGHT IS WAS OVER BUT ITS ONLY THE BEGINING WEST SIDE SOULJA'S DONT DIE THEY BORN EVERY MINUTE.....
DA HIT LIST.....
ANDY MENDOZA
AND FAM
AND ANY BODY WHO FUCKING LOOKS LIKE HIM
P.S ANDY SMILE BITCH WER'Z YOUR FOUR FRONT TEETH BITCH O'YEAYA I GOT YOUR FUCKING CHAIN BITCH COME AND GET IT MOTHER-FUCKER
YOU GOT A INNOCENT WOMAN KILLED... SO WE GONNA BURRY YOU AND STILL BUY YOU FLOWER'S
187 ON YOUR MOMMA WE BRING-N DA DRAMA WE DO IT SLOW CARTEL STYLE WE WANT YOU SUFFER BEFORE YOU DIE... SO TELL YOUR MOTHER BROTHER SISTER FATHER THEY "DEAD"
R.I.P BECCA MUCH LOVE FROM THE WEST-SIDE...
FREE BIGG-VEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:23PMSee? IQs so low they almost don't register.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:29PMWHAT THE FUCK IS A IQ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHE YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:41PMMy prayers go out to everyone involved and affected by that evening! Rest in Peace Becca. You will never be forgotten!
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:51PMFYI in 2000 the location was named Tooties and owned by a different person.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 11:53PMIts so amazing at all the blaming everyone is doing. Lets look at technology these days you mean to tell me that the Police cant get some compute geek to pull these IP ADDRESS and question all those that are posting and question them? Yeah right get to it everyone is hurting and it takes two to tangle. The only men that knows exactly what happend is the people involved and our heavenly father and he will let the truth come to light. Sounds like all are to blame the Bar for letting this all of this get out of control and I know for a fact teenagers have there fake ids and they are never carded because they are kids or there friends. That is neither here or there my the lord with all of you.
Most of you want to Blame Vince and it that helps you sleep at night fine. There is only one MAN who CAN JUDGE and that is OUR HEAVENLY FATHER!!!! WE ALL SIN EVERY DAY AND HE FORGIVES US EVERYDAY ALL DAY LONG WHEN WE ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! I KNOW VINCE REGRETS WHAT HAPPENS BUT BABY KEEP GOD IN YOUR HEART AND GIVE IT ALL TO HIM AND HE WILL SEE YOU THROUGH THIS.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:26AMFirst all you Gang Bangers need to stop haten. You young ass punks have lowered yourselves to shooting women and children. You guys trying to put the blame an Andy and Dave mendoza is bullshit.they didn't fire any guns you westside did.stop trying to lead the cops to them. your fights with other gangs isn't there fault. Man the fuck up. all you that are putting blame on innocent people is CRAP! they have the Right Person.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 8:26AMTHE GUN BATTLE TOOK PLACE OUT SIDE OF JESSE'S AND NEAR THE OASIS. ALL THE OTHER MOTHER FUCKERS THAT WERE INVOLED YOU ALL THREW YOUR SHIT IN THE PARK. MENDOZA'S DIDN'T AND DON'T HAVE ANY GUNS BUMB ASSES.AND SO WHAT IF HE IS A EX-COP? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEA IN CHINA? A LADY GOT KILLED BECAUSE OF BIG V AND OTHER RIVAL GANGS PISSIN IN THE STREETS. THE GOT THE RIGHT PERSON.THAT'S REAL FUCKING SMART TO PUT DEATH THREATS ON PEOPLE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. YOU HATER'S ARE JUST MAD CAUSE YOUR BOY GOT CAUGHT.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 8:52AMTHIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT IS NOT EVEN CALLED FOR.. PLEASE REREAD THIS AND THINK ABOUT HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT YOU SOUND.
SEE IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO GO OUT aND COMMITTE THESE PROBLEMs AND CRIMES AND EVERYONE WANTS TO RIGHT AWAY BLaME THE ESTABLISHMENTS.
PEOPLE...U SERIOUS!?!?! THIS IGNORANT PERSON IS WHAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT. HE IS GOIN TO BE ONE OF THEM THAT GOES INTO AN ESTABLISHMENT BECAUSE OF SOMEONE HE DOESN"T LIKE ANd sTART SHOOTING. THEsE ARE THE IDIOTS THAT START ALL THE TROUBLE. THINK AbOUT IT.
WEST SIDE NIGGA WHAT SET YOU FROM says:
23ST, 27ST , 29ST, WE A TEAM DOG...
YOU THOUGHT IS WAS OVER BUT ITS ONLY THE BEGINING WEST SIDE SOULJA'S DONT DIE THEY BORN EVERY MINUTE.....
DA HIT LIST.....
ANDY MENDOZA
AND FAM
AND ANY BODY WHO FUCKING LOOKS LIKE HIM
P.S ANDY SMILE BITCH WER'Z YOUR FOUR FRONT TEETH BITCH O'YEAYA I GOT YOUR FUCKING CHAIN BITCH COME AND GET IT MOTHER-FUCKER
YOU GOT A INNOCENT WOMAN KILLED... SO WE GONNA BURRY YOU AND STILL BUY YOU FLOWER'S
187 ON YOUR MOMMA WE BRING-N DA DRAMA WE DO IT SLOW CARTEL STYLE WE WANT YOU SUFFER BEFORE YOU DIE... SO TELL YOUR MOTHER BROTHER SISTER FATHER THEY "DEAD"
R.I.P BECCA MUCH LOVE FROM THE WEST-SIDE...
FREE BIGG-VEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 8:57AMR U Stupid??? Vince did not shoot himself, and there are witnesses who saw the Mendoza's armed and saw them shoot Vince FIRST, its obvious that u dont know what u are talking about, u must know them or know where they r so why dont u get them to come out of hiding and turn them in??? The only innocent one in all of this is Becca...RIP
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 9:02AMTo Justin Kendall: Dude, you have an angry mob on your hands! You are very smart though, it sounds to me like the article you wrote was a set-up, just so you get everyone stirred up. This way the police can easily get a lot of information just by monitoring this blog. In KC this is unfortunately the same headline that runs EVERY week, only the names are changed! This case will cause a lot more turmoil before it is over and there is enough GUILT to go around for everyone to share. The other point I want to make is that men who are FATHERS are shot everyday in our city and no one ever says "well if that father would have been home with his kids he wouldn't have got shot" so people, don't waste your breath talking about Rebecca who was a mother being at a bar instead of being at home taking care of her kids!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 9:07AMLord, please help everyone to be able to come together as a community. Father they all need you to come into their Hearts, they need strength and forgiveness. Please console the anger, hate and hostility these people live with everyday for they know no better. Take away their hurt, hate and their ignorance.
Father God, I ask that you protect everyone and their family. Come walk beside down the right word, for they can't seem to find.
I ask this in Jesus Name, AMEN!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 9:12AMThis a very sad thing that happened to a young mother. Prayers to all involved.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:19AMWhen younger I also went to Tooties/Jesse's.
I can remember a young man in there trying to start $h!t with a man & was overheard to say he had a gun. Vincent the owners son was Bartending & was told & promtly came out from around the bar & searched that guy . He did not have a gun on him.
AS far as any of you go it's all hear say. the above comment is correct. no gun on anyone in the bar! again.......all rival bullshit! Stop haten on the Mendoza's, And on Jesse's bar. you westside got in a scuff with others out side and now you want to blame someone who you beat up? that's real fucking stupid.REAL BIG OF YOU YOUNG PUNKS
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:36AMinteresting? sad! i was in that bar recently, for the first time, a while back. i remember leaving and thinking, wow, this is a "shooting waiting to happen". i seen alot of firearms laying on tables, drugs being bought and sold, and the like. i still have to say that i felt very safe and that the folks in there seemed very welcoming of me, a newcomer. i would not have visited that place again, but only because i felt that one day "i" could become a "rebecca", and i have children to raise. other than that, good luck to all parties, innocent or not, and i pray for the victims of this senseless event. :-(
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:36AMMy Prayers go out to those women that got hurt ohter than that He got caught He admited his guilt, now he is going to jail. end of story
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:39AMthere has been no guns on tables, at that bar I have been there many times and it has always been a friendly bar. No fights just people kicking back and having a good time.It is a respectable place in my opinion.And the Question here is the only bad and bullshit comments are coming from the friends of Big V. Noone else has those crack head comments.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:44AMi have never met Big V and am not "friends" of any other party involved in this matter. i did not mean to suggest criminal activity was supported, or condoned by the establishment proprietors, or staff. i merely pointed to a fact that "I" observed some of the things i mentioned in my previous post (10:36am, today). the place got very dark after the KU Jayhawks lost the basketball game and the T.V. was turned off. that is when i observed a distinct change in the atmosphere. i still remained there till i was ready to leave. again, i felt no threat of harm to myself or my out of town guest. sometimes one has to pay close attention to their instincts; at which i have a strong proclivity for doing. this time, whether you agree with my assertions or not, they were dead on. just three or four weeks later, my instincts proved correct. have a great day, friend.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:57AMThis is a classic case of gangs that are trying to change crap up so innocent people like the Mendoza's get caught. The fight isn't their's they aren't even part of a gang. Andy is a good man and so is His brother. they are the victims, as well as the woman who was killed. The reason noone is coming forward to say anything diffrent they are in fear of westside retaliation. westside kills innocent children and women as well as anyone who try's to stand up against them.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:57AMI was there that night and did not see any of that after the jayhawks lost everyone was in good spirits and noone pulled guns and I was there until the bar closed. I am sorry if you saw something diffrent. the fact remains the inncodent happend outside not inside.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:01AMi don't want to engage in a tit for tat as seems to be the modus operatus for this particular blog, but i do want to express my total agreement with you in that the real issue is that of the VICTIMS' families, and the survivors of the injuries sustained by the shooters, as well. good luck to all. please do not mis read my comments as indication that i support either side, or convict the establishment that is "named" throughout this article and subsequent postings. i merely was attempting to bring cogent and mature conversation back to this very serious event that seemingly has been overlooked from what i have been reading, thus far. thanks.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:11AMMY LIFE IS IN YOUR HANDS!
You don't have to worry
And don't you be afraid
Joy comes in the morning
Troubles they don't last always
For there's a friend named Jesus
Who will wipe your tears away
And if your heart is broken
Just lift your hands and say
I know that I can make it
I know that I can stand
No matter what may come my way
My life is in your hands
You don't have to worry
And don't you be afraid
Joy comes in the morning
Troubles they don't last always
For there's a friend named Jesus
Who will wipe your tears away
And if your heart is broken
Just lift your hands and say
I know that I can make it
I know that I can stand
No matter what may come my way
My life is in your hands
With Jesus I can take it
With Him, I know I can stand
No matter what may come my way
My life is in your hands
So when your tests and trials
They seem to get you down
And all your friends and loved ones
Are nowhere to be found
Remember there's a friend named Jesus
Who will wipe your tears away
And if your heart is broken
Just lift your hands and say
I know that I can make it
I know that I can stand
No matter what may come my way
My life is in your hands
With Jesus I can take it
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:14AMWith Him, I know I can stand
No matter what may come my way
My life is in your hands
Me and Becca went out every now and then most recently just to have a good time and have some laughs...since we both went through a divorce.
So people shouldn't try to blame her for being out...cause she was a great mother! She even told me that she only went out on a Fri or Sat...not both days in a row...so she wouldn't be away from her kids too much.
She will be forever missed!
My heart and prayers go to Rebecca's family!
Rebecca will never be forgotten!!!
Also, Big V is definately not to blame for her death. He's not a killer! He's not capable of commiting a crime like this....it's not his nature to even be compared to Dahmer or Bundy....that's not even rite for someone to put Vince in that category!
Rosie is a good friend of mine and I know she raised a good son and I send my prayers to her and her family.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:15AMim sorry but he had a gun that he used in a public place, weather or not if it was self defense, he was still involved, im not saying charge him with Rebecca's murder but he is not completely innocent. I do feel sorry for Rebecca's family as well as V's because two young peoples lives/families are ruined. But he should not have had the gun in the first place, you carry a gun-you fire it-you better be prepared to deal with the consequences. I do not believe he did shoot Rebecca or if he did, that he meant to and I hope he is recovering and glad that he had the courage to admit his involvement.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:30AMThe real monsters-killers are the other men involved and people who have information on this should be calling the detective that left his information above and stop writing hurtful things on this stupid blog that is just adding fuel to the fire. Its all senseless violence and too many people are being affected. Have respect for the families esspecially Rebecca's She was the innocent one here.
I HOPE ALL YOU BEANERS GET THE "SWINE FLU" STAY AWAY FROM MEXICANS & MEXICAN RESTAURANTS PEOPLE!!!!!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:50AMFor all those people who are sticking up for that piece of crap BIG V saying he's not a monster or murderer your all idiots and trash just like him. Why is he carrying a gun to begin with? I'll tell you why cuz he's a fat piece of crap low life thug just like all the other westside people. All the westside is is a drug infested neighborhood with trashy people running the streets and their nothing but low lifes simple as that. Get a life people on the westside and get real jobs not by selling drugs though since thats what you do best in that area. Rot in hell Big V you deserve it
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:50AMAnonymous says:
This is a classic case of gangs that are trying to change crap up so innocent people like the Mendoza's get caught. The fight isn't their's they aren't even part of a gang. Andy is a good man and so is His brother. they are the victims, as well as the woman who was killed. The reason noone is coming forward to say anything diffrent they are in fear of westside retaliation. westside kills innocent children and women as well as anyone who try's to stand up against them.
MENDOZA'S BROS MAY OR MAY NOT BE INNOCENT BUT IF SO WHY ARE THEY NOT TALKING TO KCPD TO CLEAR THEIR NAMES? IF THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE THEN WHY NOT COME FORWARD? AND IF HE IS AN EX-COP WHY BE SCARED? NONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY MAKE SENSE LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THESE COMMENTS.
WHAT A BUNCH OF MALARKEY!
LIVING THE LIFE OF A TRUE GANGSTER THERE COMES MANY CONSEQUENCES AND REPERCUSSIONS THUS MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE DUE TO THIS VIOLENCE, (NOT THAT I CONDONE IT) BUT THIS IS NOT NEW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE GANGS BEGAN! SO TO SAY THAT WESTSIDERS KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS A SPORT THEN ITS OBVIOUS YOU DONT KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD!!!
I SURE AS HELL DONT SEE ANYONE (OR YOU) TRYING TO CHANGE IT OR TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER!
STAND UP AGAINST THE VIOLENCE THAT OCCURS ON THE WESTSIDE, NOT AGAINST AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY!
I AM PRAYING THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED ESPECIALLY TO THE CHILDREN OF BECCA AND FOR VINCE AND FOR TERESA!!!
AND I AM SURE THAT THE PITCH IS LOVING THIS!! SO GIVE THEM THE SATISFACTION THEY WANT AND LET THEM SEE THE IGNORANCE THAT HINDERS OUR ADVANCEMENT!
GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE FAMILIES INVOLVED AND DONT TAKE TO HEART WHAT MAJORITY OF THESE COMMENTS SAY!! THEY ARE FULL OF ANGER AND ANIMOSITY!
PROUD TO BE A WESTSIDER!!!
DREAMER 29
EL PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS SERA VENCIDO!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:07PMnow you have some idiot on here singling out a whole race, and making some stupid swine flu comment, fucking ignorant! you people are stupid and disrespectful
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:12PMJOHNSON COUNTY YOUR HILARIOUS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
WAIT HERE SOME MORE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I WOULD COMMENT BACK TO YOUR IGNORANCE, BUT ITS JUST NOT WORTH IT!! WAIT HERE IS SOME MORE HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HEHEHEHHEHE HOHOHOHOHO HAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG!!! I AM lmao!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH
YOUR A JOKE!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:18PMHey Detective..... Why are you allowing these threatning blogs against people that have been cleared? alot of people on both sides are going to get hurt if you allow this kind of crap to continue. PITCH your policy says no threatning either?? Get it together Guys.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:21PMjohnson county guy: ummm...your comments are ignorant and maybe you need to just keep your dumb comments to yourself and stay on your side of the county line in your happy little bubble because you have no clue what goes on over here and im sure you did not grow up and have to live even close to the kind of life that some of us have. So do yourself a favor and stick to what you know, and from the sounds of it, thats not much
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:25PMThis is exactly what I am talking about! Read this bloggers comment:
For all those people who are sticking up for that piece of crap BIG V saying he's not a monster or murderer your all idiots and trash just like him. Why is he carrying a gun to begin with? I'll tell you why cuz he's a fat piece of crap low life thug just like all the other westside people. All the westside is is a drug infested neighborhood with trashy people running the streets and their nothing but low lifes simple as that. Get a life people on the westside and get real jobs not by selling drugs though since thats what you do best in that area. Rot in hell Big V you deserve it
Those of you that are taking the opportunity to be IGNORANT, quit making our people look bad. You just make those people that have ignorant racist views about us feel justified in the way they think. This guy is just as ignorant as the rest of you that are making dumb comments. Guess what, blogger...there are educated, hard working Mexicans on the Westside. I come from a Westside family. We are not all gang bangers, high school dropouts! You think you are better just because you live in Johnson County? Why does that make you better? Is is because you never had it rough and you don't know what it is like to struggle in the hood? Is it because you were BORN into better circumstances and didn't have to struggle your way out of worse circumstances? You have no idea what it is like to try and make it out of the hood. Everything has been given to you. And if it wasn't, then you are lucky that you got out. Most people don't. It is very hard to break the cycle when that is all you've known. People that do make it out of a rough life are the exception. It doesn't happen everyday. You are just as ignorant as the rest of them. And you'd think you'd be educated because you don't come from that life and are from Johnson County. You are just as ignorant as the rest of them!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:27PMwhite pages show a whole list of padilla's and there address'es and the luna's also you know. back off all of you.. all sides involved.! right wrong or indiffrent:
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:40PM(STOP SNITCH'IN)YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHIN, AND A QUIET MOUTH IS A SAFE MOUTH. UNFORTUNATE FOR THE LADY THAT DIED. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYMORE BLOOD DRAWN OVER ATTITUDES OF YOUNG THUGS. GROW UP GET A DAMN JOB AND STOP RUNNING THE STREETS LIKE OYU AIN'T GOT NO SENSE!
first of all the only reason im commenting on this shit is because u silly person writing about my family the hernandez and steve luna they have nothing to do with anything big v shit he should b calld big pussy he acts stupid with no home training he is careless and always ready to b a bad ass but lets c he is the one who cant go heads up he always starts shit when he has a group of boys and a gun!!!!! and u want to talk about peoples parenting bitch whos in jail and u better take a long look at his parents and this is a fact they a felons!!!!so when u worry about peoples upbringing dnt throw rocks when they or u live in a glass house and as far as the comment about my cousin gina cheap shot cause she and her husband and family have nothing to do wit punk ass low life bitches that when its all said and done who ever is at fault took a young girls life his fat ass is still breathing she isnt even the other guys will get there's!! so keep all the blame and bitch comments to themselves about my family focus on the silly punk ass who cant b men a fight like the veteran westsiders!! and then when the tru ones got caught they took shit like men not pussys on the run or pussys passing blame hiding shit so take that shit to the pitch all of u grow up and respect the young girl thats not here to c her kids!!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:43PMIm not saying ALL westsiders are trash and thugs im just saying that all the people who go to jesse's are drug addicts and thugs and low lifes and everybody knows that. All the guys are thugs and piece of craps and all the women besides being EXTREMELY overweight are hoes and NO! im not being racists cuz im mexican myself im just stating a fact so get off your high horse westside people and accept the fact that im right and your wrong.....oh and BIG V dont bend over in jail but enjoy the view in your new cell for the next 30yrs
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:44PMTHE COMMENT OF WHY ARE THEY HIDING WELL WHY DON'T YOU CHECK OBVIOUSLY THEY DID GO DOWN TO THE STATION! IDIOTS YOU HATERS ARE.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:45PMfirst of all the only reason im saying anything about this is that all these people are puting blame on the young woman who died now thats fucked up big vince is the one who shot that girl and his upbringing is to blame a crack head daddy and a drug dealing mother and dont forget he has a grandfather who killed a cousin as well.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:55PMand as far as julie florez is concerned she needs to worry about her own kids that she dont even raise so before anyone who talks shit just remember karma is a muthafucker.
first of all the only reason im saying anything about this is that all these people are puting blame on the young woman who died now thats fucked up big vince is the one who shot that girl and his upbringing is to blame a crack head daddy and a drug dealing mother and dont forget he has a grandfather who killed a cousin as well.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:55PMand as far as julie florez is concerned she needs to worry about her own kids that she dont even raise so before anyone who talks shit just remember karma is a muthafucker.
johnson county guy: are u serious with the EXTREMELY overweight women and that all that goes to Jesse's is thugs??? how do u know, have you ever been there and if you have does this mean that YOU are a piece of shit thug, low life??? did you know the woman who was killed? have u seen her picture and not only her looks but she was a beautiful person inside and out and so are alot of other people who go to the bars down there and who live there. I just think to single out a whole group of people is ignorant. what if i said well you live in joco so you must be some sheltered spoiled rich white johnson county douche....would that be a fair comment to make? I totally agree with V being completely guilty and needs to take the consequences for his actions but is the rest of your comments really necessary?
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:00PMYa actually i did go to jesse's once in a great while but got sick and tired of mike oroczo trying to sell me drugs and jesse the bartender likewise and then that bum philip well i we all know what he does....so ya i've been there done that and learned that jesse's is a whole in the wall bar with a bunch of low lifes that go there..
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:11PMOMG people, grow the fuck up. You have to much time on your hands.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:21PMJohnson County Guy, you DID say that all westside people are low life thugs just like V. You called them trashy low lifes. And you DID generalize your statement. Go back and READ.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:24PMAnd all I can is, WOW!!! You are Mexican?!? You are on your high horse by making a point to claim Johnson County and judging others that live in the Westside, a Mexican community! You are talking bad about your own people. If you feel that strongly about them, do something to try and uplift them, not tear them down by making ignorant comments. People like you just talk so passionately about what you hate and don't do anything to try and change it. Don't run your mouth if you are not going to be proactive about it. I can not believe you are Mexican!!! You are racist and prejudice against your own people. I wouldn't be so proud to say that I am from Johnson County. It has done nothing for you, but make you look down on your own people. You should be ashamed of yourself!
Mr Johnson County you don't know anything about our families from the Westside. It's ignorance of knowledge from people like you who give the Westside a bad name. Our families come from a long line of decendents who have lived in the area for well over 100 years. My grandparents, my parents, my whole family have all grown up on the Westside and here you call us low life, trashy and thugs, how dare you!
I come from a family of 12, my dad worked three yes three jobs to raise us. He was a butcher for Superior Meat and Sausage Co. during the week, a bartender on Friday nights and picked up trash on Saturday's for the city.
We also all have jobs and work hard to give our children a good education and life. So don't talk your trash like you know how we live and for any other family on the Westside for that matter.
My nephew Vincent wasn't raised by a drug selling family. To call us that is an insult to me, my brothers and sisters who have raised their children like any other family in America. He probably has more respect in his whole body than you have in your little pincky or if you have any at all for that matter.
No one knows what is going to happen when you walk out your front door everyday of your life. We can't monitor or children 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We can only try our best to bring them up the best way we know how. Everywhere young adults are getting into trouble without thinking of the consequences. And yes sadly my nephew is in that category but don't sit there and bash him when you don't even know him or our families.
I'm proud to call myself a Westsider.
I'm proud to say we have several college graduates in our family and some who are still in college and getting ready to graduate, as so do many families on the Westside.
I'm proud of my nephew who didn't run and try to hide but is there in jail till the truth comes out.
I'm proud that I am a Mexican no matter how many names you throw at us.
Yes I am proud to be a beaner!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:39PMWith all due respect Ms. Zuniga we aren't appearing in the best of light with the comments left on this blog by those from the westside. I too am a westsider but know that people do make us look bad to surrounding areas. We are not achieving anything by commenting on this blog. I say we all stop posting.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 1:48PMFor the record, I have asked The Pitch to remove the threatening posts or shut down the blog altoghter and I was told that it was not their policy to do so.
I have also talked to most if not everyone that was involved. If you were involved and I have not talked to you, get a hold of me.
Det. Matt "Buck" Williams
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:05PMKCPD Homicide Unit
816-234-5336
matthew.williams@kcpd.org
FIRST OF ALL I WAS NEVER THERE NOR INVOLVED N KICKING ANDY MENDOZA ASS. I WISH I WAS THOUGH. FUCK HIM AND HIS BROTHER AND WHOEVER HAS A PROBLEM. ON A SERIOUS NOTE, MY HEART GOES OUT 2 REBECCA & HER FAM. EVERYBODY WANTS 2 POINT DA FINGER AT BIG V, BUT THE TRUTH WILL SET EVERYBODY FREE.WHO EVER PUT MY NAME N DA PITCH , FUCK U AND UR MOMMA. THE WESTSIDE HAS GOOD PEOPLE WHO DO CARE ABOUT DA COMMUNITY. BUT WHEN OUTSIDERS TEST US N DISRESPECT US WE WONT ALLOW IT. THIS IS FAR FROM OVER, A LOT OF PEOPLE NEED 2 WATCH THERE BACK. THIS IS NOT A THREAT, THIS IS REALITY. ALL U DUMB BITCHES N NIGGAS TALKING BAD ON DA WESTSIDE NEED 2 STOP HATIN. UCANT FUCK WITH US. BUT THIS REALLY HAS NOTHING 2 DO WITH DA WESTSIDE. I AREE WE HAVE ALOT OF YOUNG MEN N OUR HOOD WITH 2 MUCH TIME ON THERE HANDS AND NOTHING 2 DO WITH IT. BUT I DONT SEE ANYBODY HELPING 2 SOLVE THIS ISSUE. SO KEEP OUR NAMES OUT UR MOUTH. FREE BIG V, OH YEAH FUCK JESSE'S PUNK ASS BAR AINT BOUT SHIT. KEEP UR EYES OPEN.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:05PMDear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE THE ARTICLE OFF AND STOP BEING SELFISH ABOUT YOUR RATINGS !!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:06PMWith all due respect Anonymous I am just trying to voice my feelings which I believe is all about a blog.
And who is not appearing in the best of light...did I use cuss words to get my opinion across, no.....did I say I was going to go after anyone for revenge, no.
I understand what you are saying fellow westsider but I needed to make my comment whether it was right or wrong.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:09PMI believe I did it respectfully.
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE THE ARTICLE OFF AND STOP BEING SELFISH ABOUT YOUR RATINGS !!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:11PMHope he goes to jail for a longtime, and i dont think he came from a good family if his mom just got out of prison herself. dumbass westsiders. its prob a good idea to leave em out on the streets so they can kill each other off one by one!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:11PMDear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE THE ARTICLE OFF AND STOP BEING SELFISH ABOUT YOUR RATINGS !!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:13PMDear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is hurting and this is not helping anyone people.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:26PM.
It is sad all of you gang bangers are so tough, and then when someone does get caught you cry and blame everyone but yourselves.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:39PMYou choose you own Destiny in life.
Why don't all you gang bangers get a life and a job and grow up.
This has nothing to do with Jesses or the Mendoza's. It has to do with gang bangers and what drugs do to people.
Quit hating; put all of your energy to something else.
All of you guys are pathetic.
I know most of you can't read or write by the looks of the comments, so I am sure some of the words I have written you won't understand!
Dear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is hurting and this is not helping anyone people.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:43PMHay Johnson Co. Guy FYI ...
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:12PMThe Great Westside is where I am from.
Very proud of that fact & the that I am A Mexican/American . I know The Westside has
produced great people like Lawyers , Doctors,Nurses,Police Officers , Homicide Detective's,Firemen,FireChiefs,Business owners.As well as many many other professional men & women. I to can not believe you are Mexican. There is nothing wrong with Jesse's Bar or the people that go there just to have fun. Thugs are a product of our society & the glamorizing of it. they are in every city in the world .
Why do you Hate on your own ???????
First of all to Chris Padilla and the person from the hernandez and luna fam, if really read the blog about you right, you would know it wasnt anyone from Jesse's OR THE Garcia-Muzquiz fam talking about you..it was from the MENDOZA Side saying your names or someone just trying to start stuff !! No one really knows....
Jesse's has nothing to do with all this!!
The person from THE Luna fam keep Hernandez outta your mouth we aren't in this we are friends with Rosie and her fam,,,we werent there we know nothing!!
We know how it feels to lose someone for nothing!! So Leave us out of it!
I am PRAYING FOR ALL YOU LOST SOULS MAKING DEATH THREATS ON HERE...GOD BE WITH YOU ALL!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:17PMDear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is hurting and this is not helping anyone people.
.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:26PM Anonymous says:
It is sad all of you gang bangers are so tough, and then when someone does get caught you cry and blame everyone but yourselves.
You choose you own Destiny in life.
Why don't all you gang bangers get a life and a job and grow up.
This has nothing to do with Jesses or the Mendoza's. It has to do with gang bangers and what drugs do to people.
Quit hating; put all of your energy to something else.
All of you guys are pathetic.
I know most of you can't read or write by the looks of the comments, so I am sure some of the words I have written you won't understand!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:39PM Anonymous says:
Dear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:23PMPitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Pitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is hurting and this is not helping anyone people.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:26PM Anonymous says:
It is sad all of you gang bangers are so tough, and then when someone does get caught you cry and blame everyone but yourselves.
You choose you own Destiny in life.
Why don't all you gang bangers get a life and a job and grow up.
This has nothing to do with Jesses or the Mendoza's. It has to do with gang bangers and what drugs do to people.
Quit hating; put all of your energy to something else.
All of you guys are pathetic.
I know most of you can't read or write by the looks of the comments, so I am sure some of the words I have written you won't understand!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 2:39PM Anonymous says:
Dear Pitch.
ok if the Pitch cant close this comment section down then why cant they take this article off the internet so it is not accessible anymore.
Tell me Pitch what will it take to shut this down... ?
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:26PMPitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch.
Tell me how is keeping the posts open benefiting anything? Obviously words are getting out of control.
The cussing, name calling and the racist remarks are sincerely enough.
Tell me where is the satisfaction. You have allowed the community to shout and say their peace.
People this is not helping anyone and for the people who want to find closure this isn't the way. Everyone is hurting.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:31PMPitch...I think your terms of use policy is weak.
Dear Pitch Please close down the comment section. you have had your laugh now let us have our peace.
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is hurting and this is not helping anyone people.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:40PMOK OK OK THIS IS FREAKIN OUT OF CONTROL HERE!!!! I PERSONALLY DONT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL I CARE ABOUT IS REBECCA AND THAT SHE LOST HER LIFE DUE TO SOME STUPID ASS PEOPLE AND THEIR RAGE BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER. HOW IS THAT FAIR TO HER AND HER FAMILY ITS NOT... ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT ALL PARTIES ARE CAUGHT AND PUNISHED AND IF THAT MEANS MURDER CHARGES FOR ALL THEN SO BE IT ROT IN HELL BECAUSE U DESERVE IT FOR BEING CARELESS OF OTHERS AROUND U...REBBECCA I LOVE U GIRL AND ALWAYS WILL MAY U REST IN PEACE AND MAY JUSTICE BE PREVALED TO HELP UR FAMILY AND FRIENDS DEAL WITH THIS TRAGEDY..... RIP BECCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:45PMENOUGH IS ENOUGH THS NEEDS TO END PLEASE PITCH CLOSE THE COMMENTS DOWN HOW ARE THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY SUPPOSE TO COPE WITH THEIR LOSS IF THIS IS GOING ON... PEOPLE TALKING BOUT HIT LISTS AND CRAPCOME HOW IS ANYONE SUPPOSE TO FEEL SAFE..LOVE U BEKKA RIP HOMEGIRL
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:48PMBig V ...aint did shit. Far as i could see. Ol boy was blastin his gun from INSIDE the club. Justice will come to him. And the Lord will not turn a blind eye from Vincents big heart. Forensics will tell the truth. And if the "detectives" did some actual follow ups to these leads. Theyd find these fuKn Cowards. And question them. You got the adress detective...now DETECT. Something in this story dont fit right with you....and you KNOW it. Is this just another excuse to keep a young Latino behind bars? I say we put together a rally cry to find these punks. And STOP all the useless killings. And put these assholes away! Who wants to put this together. To make those who were there feel like there is more unity behind them. And to not feel intimidated! LEts do something...Vince. Keep your head High. And your your spirits up Lil Bro.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 4:17PMPitch,
JUST AN FYI...this is goin to cause another innocent life.
ALL THIS STUFF AND PEOPLES NAMES, LAST NAMES and ETC...
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT U ARE CAUSING AND STIRRING UP.
JUST SO U KNOW... IF ANyTHING ELSE SHOULD HAPPEN ... IF ANOTHER INNOCENT LIFE SHOULD BE TaKEN BECAUSE OF ALL THIS .. it is goin to be on your hands because of your comment sections here that u are allowing to go one. PLEASE STOP!
I KNOW U WERE ABLE TO DELETE A COMMENT.. SO WHY CAN"T YOU DELETE THEM ALL OR TAKE THIS COMMENT SECTION OFF NOW. YOU ARE JUST AS SICK AND IGNORANT AS THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE!
Pitch, I hope you will be able to live with a DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY ON YOUR HANDS (if something SHOULD HAPPEN. Maybe you will... I wouldn't be suprised.
Also I wouldn't be suprised if someone puts a law suite towards you! YOU WILL MOST DEFINITLY DEsERVE IT!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 4:22PMPitch,
JUST AN FYI...this is goin to cause another innocent life.
ALL THIS STUFF AND PEOPLES NAMES, LAST NAMES and ETC...
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT U ARE CAUSING AND STIRRING UP.
JUST SO U KNOW... IF ANyTHING ELSE SHOULD HAPPEN ... IF ANOTHER INNOCENT LIFE SHOULD BE TaKEN BECAUSE OF ALL THIS .. it is goin to be on your hands because of your comment sections here that u are allowing to go one. PLEASE STOP!
I KNOW U WERE ABLE TO DELETE A COMMENT.. SO WHY CAN"T YOU DELETE THEM ALL OR TAKE THIS COMMENT SECTION OFF NOW. YOU ARE JUST AS SICK AND IGNORANT AS THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE!
Pitch, I hope you will be able to live with a DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY ON YOUR HANDS (if something SHOULD HAPPEN. Maybe you will... I wouldn't be suprised.
Also I wouldn't be suprised if someone puts a law suite towards you! YOU WILL MOST DEFINITLY DEsERVE IT!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 4:23PMI agree with you all that are complaining about the Pitch allowing this blog to happen. I myself have tried to take action and call the Pitch to chat with the publication director and tried to ask him to shut it down however I was told that by law they are not allowed to do so. However He did say that he does not oppose this feature but by law he cannot do that and hope that it will be shut down some day.
Pitch now your getting a mouth full.. so please help us out... This is not fair to me or to those good hearted natives of the community that do not live this life style.
Parents of the community I call on you to step up to the plate to nurture and teach your children to become good human beign so that our children could have a better life here and wait until God is ready to call on us.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 4:25PMWell we no that one detective is on this site reading these commments but IF YOUR WORKING FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND HAVE A HEART THEN PLEASE HELP US IN SHUTTING THIS BLOG DOWN. YOU DAMN WELL KNOW WHAT IS GOING WITH THIS SITUATION AND IF IT DOES NOT STOP THEN THERE WILL BE MORE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS AT RISK.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 4:48PMI used to be a fan of the pitch , but now it seems as though i will not be picking up another issue of yours. Due to the fact that you have allowed such a horrible conversation to go on.
Just a Blogger.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 5:08PMlike someone said all this bullshit talk is going to cause another life which is sad. Will the PITCH take the heat then, I think not just another article the bloggers can write on. PITCH this is really sad what you all have stirred up. and its dangerous
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 6:23PMREBECCA CHACON MAY U RIP!!!!!!!!!!! GIRL I LOVE AND MISS AND DONT KNOW WHAT IM GOING TO DO WITHOUT U IN MY LIFE!!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 6:31PMI would first like to extend my deepest sympathies to the family of rebecca because she was an innocent bystander and there is absolutely no sense to why she is no longer here to watch her children grow.... As a mother myself I know my man and children would be lost without me......She was out just tryin to let off some steam like most of us hard working mothers do on occasion so those of you sayin she should have been at home must either have not children so you don't know what it's like or must be the most perfect parents in the world and never need a break..I give you props if thats the case!!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 8:09PMI been going to that establishment since before it was jesse's and like any other bar there is gonna be some drama from time to time but I have never felt like my life was in danger. Now people talkin bout doin drugs in the bathroom how would you know unless yo ass was up in there too and that sh*t goes down at many a bar not just jesse's but I bet you was still in there kickin it on the regular.
It's time to stop all this sh*t talkin because not everyone from the westside is a gang banger or a bad person so don't put a label on the neighborhood as a whole based on the actions of a few and if you gonna run your mouth at least have the balls to put yo name on it!!!
What went down that night or any night before that and who started what don't make any difference anymore because 2 innocent women were caught up in it and one of them paid for it with her life so out of respect for rebecca and her family lets focus on whats important and that is making sure her memory is kept alive and try to put a stop to this violence because I for one am tired of seein not only the innocent but anyone dying over some stupid sh*t....I mean haven't we lost enough young people to violence in this city.........R.I.P rebecca I didn't know you but my heart goes out to your family cuz I'm know you were a mother and from some of the comments I have read you must have been a beautiful person inside and out!!
IF YOU WASN'T THERE WHY COMMENT ON ANYTHING, IT SEEMS STUPID TO ME THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE AN OPINION WHEN THEY KNOW NOTHING OR DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS. WHY NOT FOCUS ON THE ONE'S THAT LOST A LOVED ONE & THE ONE THAT IS IN THE HOSPITAL.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 8:56PMYOU WANT SOME FACTS: 1ST OFF CHRIS PADILLA IS A PUSSY, HE HIDES BEHIND HIS LIL CREW FOR EVERYTHING, STUPID BITCH ASS FAGGOT COULDN'T BUST A GRAPE IN A FOOD FIGHT, DIDN'T HE RECENTLY GET BEAT UP BY A 15 YR OLD??? ANY PERSON THAT CAN'T THROW KNUCKLES & RELIES ON GUNS TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS IS A BITCH TOO, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE WITH THE LITTLE KIDS FROM 23RD, GROW THE FUCK UP! DIDN'T GANG BANGING GROW OLD IN THE 90'S I GUESS THAT IS WHY THEY DON'T HAVE SHIT & STILL LIVE AT HOME WITH THERE MOMMY'S. NOW THAT'S SOME FACTS FOR YOUR ASS.
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 9:02PMall of this back & forth talking about who knows what, who started what & all the name dropping is RIDICULOUS! everyone has an opinion but no one (to my knowledge) is coming forward to help the authorities get to the bottom of this. muzquiz sits in jail because he did have a role in the tragic event that happened friday night. whether he is the ONLY person that should be sitting in jail is another issue. i feel for muzquiz's family as they wait & wonder what will happen with their loved one. my heart goes out to the family & friends of rebecca chacon. i never knew her but the things said about her are very loving and kind. it seems that she was caught in the middle of complete NONSENSE. and to the person who said she should have been home taking care of her kids instead of being out....you should be ashamed of yourself. there are people greiving for this women, her children will forever miss her and all you can say is some bullshit statement like that. well, that's a dummy for you. people like you who aren't about shit always find comfort in trying to bring others down.
as one of the many well-educated & professional people who were born, raised & still reside on the WESTSIDE....i find it highly offensive that some of you people catagorize us all as thugs & gang-bangers. don't get me wrong, i think that all of this "reppin my block" & "westside for life" bullshit is OLD & some of you people need to GROW THE FUCK UP & act like the adults that you are. most of you have kids & half the time don't know how to act yourself. and believe me, threatening people & their families doesn't make you bad-ass, it makes you look like a fool. none of this craziness is ever going to stop & the very sad reality of it all is it's mexicans that hate other mexicans....DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT OTHER RACES ARE LAUGHING AT US??!! Does that make you "proud to be mexican"??
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:31PMLets just let Bekka RIP!! She was a great friend and mother. I love and miss you!! I will always be your PASSANGAH!!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 11:36PMThere is NO LEGAL requirement that the Pitch maintain this site or the articles availability. that is NOT true that the Pitch has to keep it up "by law". They know it and every other attorney Knows it. just a little FYI for those interested to know.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 7:54AMFact is that David Mendoza just got out of prison a while back for almost the same thing.He shot a guy he had a fight with @ Jigger/jazz on 39th ST.Line.dude lived. It was like 17-18 years ago . He can't handle his anger & he luvs him some guns. They make short men feel big. He is not young. He be 50 in a year or so.Dude really needs to grow up & take some anger mang. classes . heard his bro is in jail as well as Big V. Rumors ya kno... they working overtime .
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 7:55AMFirst of, my prayers are with the family and friends of Rebecca. My heart is with her children because i do know how sad it is to lose a loved one.
Second to all those that are making comments about the WESTSIDE and degrading EVERY person in the community that lives there. I am one that lives on the westside and i have grown up there. For people to degrade people that they do not know or to make assumptions, PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. I am so sick of people running their mouth about things they DO NOT KNOW CRAP ABOUT. so please keep your mouth shut.
As for those that think they know what really happened in this situation, if you were'nt there to know what exactly went down than lets not run your mouths about the he said, she said crap. Get the facts before opening your mouth. for those of you that do not VINCE and are making him look like a monster, please on behalf of him and his family DO NOT RUN YOUR MOUTHS. He is not the person that everyone is making him out to be, he is by far from that. Vince is not this person, yes he made some bad decisions but he has owned up to his actions. Please people have some respect for those that are hurting and grieving. if you were there and do not what happened please speak up that way these families that are grieving can have a closure. Please do not let this situation continue out for a long period of time and let others take the blame for others actions.
As for those of you that want to put people's names out there and run their mouths about other people, please shut the hell up. I am speaking on behalf of my cousin Chris Padilla. I am so sick of you people trying to put his name in a situation that he has not a damn thing to do with nor was he at any of these events when they took place. And for you to be saying shit about his own personal life does show a lot of your behald that you do now have a life of your own. Get a damn life and quit living your life behind those that you want to bad mouth.
People please lets just all get along and quit bad mouthing our own race. you people are a disgrace to you and those that do know you. I have been refraining from posting a comment in this matter but I am fed up of reading this crap. So for those that like to run their mouths and were not there or just like to keep their mouths open and speak about things they do not know crap about, just do us all a favor and not say anything at all.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 11:30AMFor the anonymous person that is commenting about Sparks and their family. That is my family and for you to say shit about other people please shut the hell up. You have no respect for anyone or yourself. please do not speak about my family like that when they have nothing to do with this situation. leave them out of it.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 12:20PM